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Wal-Mart To Begin Prohibiting Concealed Carry?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by spin180, Nov 22, 2004.

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  1. spin180

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    There seems to be some rumors floating around that Wal-Mart will soon prohibit concealed carry nationwide.

    I saw this thread whilst killing time on the interweb:

    http://www.ls2.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=150087

    Granted, a lot of horsehockey there, but there are a few that seem to know of what they speak. Nevertheless, is there any truth to what the topic starter mentions? Has anyone else heard of this? I can't find much else to support his claim...



    :confused: :scrutiny:
     
  2. orangeninja

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    Well...if it's concealed how will they know to ask you to leave? :rolleyes:
     
  3. P95Carry

    P95Carry Moderator Emeritus

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    They would have to use an ''official'' signing protocol and/or have metal detectors.

    Should this happen - my feet will NEVER again pass their doors - and I would campaign actively to dissuade as many as I could to follow the same dictum.... plus informing them of such a course of action.

    That would be the last straw.
     
  4. Hawkmoon

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    Is it time yet to start petitioning state legislatures to address the fallacy of allowing companies and (public or quasi-public) building owners to ban concealed carry while NOT providing any secure place to check your weapon while in the building?

    Went to a state office building not long ago to renew my permit. There was a sign halfway between the parking lot and the front entrance door "No Weapons Beyond This Point." Talked to the guy inside at the firearms board desk. His solution? Buy a cheap pair of handcuffs and chain your gun to the seat frame. (Right.)

    I don't care for the whole "Steal Me" box idea, either. I can accept that it's my gun and therefore I am responsible for where it goes and what it does. But that only applies if they allow me to keep it with me. Once I have to play funny games at every place I stop the car, it becomes some legislator's responsibility, because he's not allowing me to be responsible.
     
  5. AZRickD

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    There is a letter from the Walmart's President which states that as far as guns go, what is legal in the state is legal in Walmart.

    Google your heart out.

    Rick
     
  6. psyopspec

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    Whew, that title/rumor had my heart going for a bit.
     
  7. Stand_Watie

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    I have to say I didn't believe it for a minute. 2 things made me think this...

    a) (Whatever you think of Walmart) Walmart in general has about the most pro-gun demographic of America as you can find in a major retail marketplace excluding gun/hunting establishments.

    b) Walmart understands the bottom line.

    You could say my confidence came from knowing Walmart customers, and knowing that Walmart knows which side it's bread is buttered on :D
     
  8. 2nd Amendment

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    I was made in the local Wally World a couple years ago by the then employed Rent-a-Cop. He asked me to leave, saying weapons were not allowed. I told him he had a problem and he probably didn't want to make it Wally World's problem. He said he'd call the cops. I told him to go for it(that would have been a laugh-riot in this town when they walked in and said Hey Scott, what's this guy's problem :) ). But the wife insisted we just let it go(as the manager of a competitor she thought it was something of an uncomfortable situation).

    I talked to the store manager the next day and while he said he was somewhat uncomfortable with CC Wal Mart's policy was as stated above: The laws of the state prevail. Said he'd talk to the ninja. He must have because though I would get the Evil Eye late at nite he never gave me any further trouble. Of course, he was also replaced with another company soon after so I am guessing he stirred other problems as well.

    I'd guess any opposition you'll encounter against CCW in their stores is probably of that type. Someone with an opposition and a bit of authority flexing whatever muscle he thinks he has. Simplest solution is just don't get made and don't worry about it.
     
  9. Standing Wolf

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    It wouldn't surprise me if Wal Mart were to institute such a policy: most of its third rate merchandise is made in communist China, so I don't know why its attitude toward the nation's civil rights wouldn't be communist Chinese, too.
     
  10. jefnvk

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    I would think that Wal-Mart would probably want to stay out of politics as much as possible. How much did K-Mart lose when they started playing the political game?
     
  11. R.H. Lee

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    Don't bother me none. I don't shop at WalMart. Have no use for crap made in third world sweatshops and don't want to catch scabies or some other disease from the clientele there.
     
  12. PMDW

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    The walmart in town has a "no guns" sign on a bulletin board as you're leaving the store. Not on the outside doors, just on the inside of the building. It's a crappy store, anyway. They never have anything, and when they do, there is only one register open. the rest of the employees are standing in the aisles, talking.
     
  13. fjolnirsson

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    Hmm.
    Thanks, Riley.
    I shop where I can afford to shop.
    Most times, that's Wally World.
    I guess I probably have scabies......

    :rolleyes:
     
  14. R.H. Lee

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    If ya start itchin', burn all your clothes and bedding and get to the doc for some lotion. :neener:
     
  15. 44Brent

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    Open carry in Walmart is fine

    This summer I openly carried in a Walmart store located in Cody, Wyoming. No problem whatsoever. The previous summer when I paid for items by check, the girl at the cash register looked at my Illinois driver's license and pointed out that Illinois gun laws suck.

    Yep, even the Walmart cashiers in Wyoming know that Illinois gun laws suck, and that open carry is just fine.
     
  16. trapperjohn

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    NO, No, No, No, and finally NO!!!!

    the last thing we, as Freedom loving (supposedly) gun owners, want to do is petition the government to force more people to do things against their will. That is the leftist mode of operation. We can NEVER sacrifice private property rights

    when gun owners start loving their guns more than peoples freedom we should be afraid, very afraid!
     
  17. SkyDaver

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    No, as said above, however ....

    State, County, City, Town offices should be required to provide safe storage if you can't carry.
     
  18. Mulliga

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    And the sun rises on another Wal-Mart bashing thread...

    :neener:
     
  19. fjolnirsson

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    Actually, thay sell stuff to take care of that at Wal-Mart.... :neener:
     
  20. Battlespace

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    The local Walmart sporting goods folks are fairly helpful. The first time I bought any Winchester White Box .45 HP the clerk asked me if I had used them before as there could be a problem feeding/chambering. I assured him I had and thanked him for being helpful and asking.
     
  21. carpettbaggerr

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    In theory, fine. But that's not the rules now. If you can't ban women, blacks, gays, or offensive t-shirts, you can't tell me I can't carry a gun.

    Besides, the 2nd Amendment says 'shall not be infringed' -- that includes corporations, as well as the government.
     
  22. halvey

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    Here we go again...

    "Rumors" like this seem to pop up every couple months. And we get the following comments:

    "Well, XYZ company sucks anyway."
    "Concealed means concealed."
    "It's private property, they have that right."

    So to hopefully kill the forthcoming nonsense, I offer the following:

    Who cares if the company sucks? By not allowing CCW, they are telling you, a gun owner you are not welcome.

    I would not give a company your hard earned money, even if they don't know you are carrying. I would not vist where I am not wanted, especially when they are asking you to spend your money there.

    Yes, its their property and they have the right to tell you to leave. This is different however since they are inviting the public to buy goods and services, yet banning your right to carry. And because they are public, you have the right not to buy there and you have the right to tell them what you think and get them to change their policy.
     
  23. TonyB

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    I love Wal-mart...any where you can buy underwear,bullets and a canned ham at 3 am is OK with me :neener:
     
  24. Sam Adams

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    "NO, No, No, No, and finally NO!!!!

    the last thing we, as Freedom loving (supposedly) gun owners, want to do is petition the government to force more people to do things against their will. That is the leftist mode of operation. We can NEVER sacrifice private property rights

    when gun owners start loving their guns more than peoples freedom we should be afraid, very afraid!"


    I am in favor of the protection and preservation of private property rights as anyone on THR. HOWEVER, when you are the owner of a business that is open to the public, you must admit ALL members of the public (i.e. Wally World cannot refuse admittance to, say, dark-skinned people, because the CEO is a prejudiced moron). That is a civil rights issue...and so is the carrying of a firearm. Walmart and any other commercial establishment that is open to the public must respect my right to carry a gun just as they must respect my right to carry a Bible (as long as I rightfully possess either at the time, and I'm not using either to threaten or bother their other customers).

    A private club or an individual homeowner can tell me to leave my gun at home or in my car, and I'd have no problem with their right to do so (even if I didn't like their decision).

    Regarding the subject of this thread, I don't think that Walmart will do anything to upset the apple cart - their position, of allowing whatever state law allows, is perfectly suited to attracting and retaining as many customers as possible by not getting involved in partisan political issues. From a purely business perspective (which they have, in spades), it is the wisest course of action. Walmart knows VERY WELL that if they ever banned carry in a state that otherwise allows it, they'd face a nationwide boycott of not just their guns and ammo, but of everything else that millions of people buy there. I'd personally never go there, and I'd send the CEO a letter explaining why along with my cut-up Sam's Club card. There is always competition, even for Walmart, which is why its leadership will never do anything so stupid as this thread implies.
     
  25. Sam Adams

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    "In theory, fine. But that's not the rules now. If you can't ban women, blacks, gays, or offensive t-shirts, you can't tell me I can't carry a gun.

    Besides, the 2nd Amendment says 'shall not be infringed' -- that includes corporations, as well as the government."


    While I thoroughly agree with the first paragraph, the various provisions of the BOR only apply to the fed.gov or the states. Private individuals and businesses can do as they please, unless and until they open themselves to the public.
     
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