Walther CCP

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Good question, I'm curious too. I was just looking for a Galco King Tuk for my trusty PPS and found they on make it for the CCP. "What the heck is a CCP?" Looked it up, seems interesting...
 
Feel free to join the discussion with us on Walther Forums, there are now several folks who have them.

I was definitely interested when I first heard about it, somewhat similar to the P7 delayed blowback system. I haven't been able to find one to hold in my own hands yet but I don't think it'll ultimately replace my Shield.
 
I just read two reviews , one from the Walther forum, which was very negative in every way. This man sold his the next day. He said t was too heavy and large for a CCW and that the recoil was just as much as other 9mm guns that size. He also said it was not easy to rack too. Another guy from a different forum gave just the opposite in his review; saying that it had a perfect grip, recoil was mild and very easy to rack and very accurate with targets shown with tight groups etc. He did say the trigger was not the greatest and that it was not easy to disassemble. Other than the ease of racking the slide and less recoil are there any other advantages?
 
I've not shot one but did handle one at a gun show recently and compare to the PK380 and PPS. Slide was easier to rack than the PPS, but not as easy as a PK380 when the hammer is back. Slightly easier that the PK380 when the hammer was down. It seemed a bit larger that I was expecting. The asking price was $410.

I think most of its appeal will be to whose who wish they had an HK P7 or PSP or those who can't rack a PPS or Shield sized 9mm pistol.
 
I think the similarity to the P7 was over-blown, and now that people have tried the trigger on the CCP and worked the safety, they are beginning to realize that the CCP is a totally different gun than the squeeze-cocker.
 
It's not a Walther -- it's built by Umarex. It's also chubby for its mag capacity compared to other CCW options. No thanks.
 
I'm interested because from the reviews I have seen on youtube it looks like it might be just what my 82 year old joints need.
 
kokapelli said:
I'm interested because from the reviews I have seen on youtube it looks like it might be just what my 82 year old joints need.
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I really don't care for anything made by Umarex, but if the gun has one legitimate niche, it's for folks with physical limitations when it comes to racking the slide. I'd test it for function, and then I'd fire it very sparingly.
 
The CCP was supposed to be built in the Umarex factory but on a production line run by the Ulm factory, where Walther makes some very good guns. This does not read like a good start for the CCP. I doubt if potential customers for the CCP are looking for a toy gun.
 
Just because it is made by Umarex in Arnsberg instead of Ulm is not justification for bad-mouthing a product until it is given a full review by owners and the reasonable "test of time". I am keeping an open mind. It is something I might consider down the road. That said, Walther engineers and production managers have played a roll in the development and production of the CCP in their Arnsberg plant. Since the CCP is new to the market, we shall see from those who purchased them , how good or bad they really are within a few months.
 
Good positive attitude, snooperman, but I believe it has already been preordained on this board that if the CCP is made by Umarex, it's probably going to be junk. As you note, time will tell.
 
It has already received some less-than-stellar reviews. Believe whatever you want, but it's patently obvious from handling it that it's not remotely close to PPQ/P99/PPS quality.
 
Read the glowing review given by "The Truth about guns" Feb 2 , 2015 before you pre-judge it harshly.
 
TTAG? Is that a joke?

I'm not "pre-judging" anything. I'm judging it. It takes about a second and a half to tell that you're not holding anything approaching Walther quality. That doesn't have to mean it's not good enough for you, though.
 
Good positive attitude, snooperman, but I believe it has already been preordained on this board that if the CCP is made by Umarex, it's probably going to be junk. As you note, time will tell.
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Umarex has worked hard to build that reputation for making junk.

And for that reason, I'll pass.

I don't see anything the CCP does that the (real) Walther PPS doesn't already do much better.
 
It is easy to be negative and prejudicial about a pistol you have not owned nor had shooting experience because it does not require any "critical thinking Skills" , which is lacking by some in this thread , to say the least. I guess I was asking too much from "The High Road"
 
You know, it is always the guys who do not have these guns nor have even shot them , that seem to know the most about them. As if by majic "they know a good gun when they see one". Amazing isn't it.
 
Once you've owned and closely studied a few dozen guns, it's really not hard at all to spot a lack of quality when you handle one in person -- and even less so when comparing guns from a single manufacturer (or, in this case, one manufacturer and another selling guns under the name of the first). It seems to me that someone with at least remedial critical-thinking skills should be able to grasp that. But, hey, if it's good enough for you, that's all that should matter to you.
 
I started this thread with the hope that someone that has this pistol with some experience could enlighten us as to the quality or lack thereof. I am not For or Against the CCP either way. I want to know more about it. Those who want to criticize others who have spent much time shooting and analyzing it , when they themselves have no personal experience with, leaves little to be desired. I say let's keep an open mind as this pistol is new to the market and deserves the critical review by those who own and shoot it. I have read several good reviews from people who own the CCP and hope to get more information from the Walther forum as time permits. Hopefully I will better be able to make a decision in a few months whether I want one or not. Snoop
 
snooperman said:
I started this thread with the hope that someone that has this pistol with some experience could enlighten us as to the quality or lack thereof. I am not For or Against the CCP either way. I want to know more about it. Those who want to criticize others who have spent much time shooting and analyzing it , when they themselves have no personal experience with, leaves little to be desired. I say let's keep an open mind as this pistol is new to the market and deserves the critical review by those who own and shoot it. I have read several good reviews from people who own the CCP and hope to get more information from the Walther forum as time permits. Hopefully I will better be able to make a decision in a few months whether I want one or not. Snoop
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I think your missing the point! The people you are criticizing for having a negative opinion are generally critical of who makes the CCP and not the pistol itself.
 
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