Walther PPQ discontinued

[DPris]

Would you believe me if I told you Umarex owns Walther?
Denis

 

[balance 740]

Umarex has owned Walther for 20 years.

There is a big difference in quality, between the pistols that come out of the Umarex plant in Arnsberg, and the pistols that come out of the Walther plant in Ulm.

 

[DPris]

Denis

 

[wow6599]

Here's a good read by Pat Sweeney on the PPQ.....and it's production facility.

http://www.gunsandammo.com/reviews/new-wave-walther-walther-ppq-review/

 

[rlmenn]

i just bought the p22 and i have to say that mag release is one of the finest i have ever used.

 

[HKGuns]

Call me Balance when the P40 is released AND has a button.

 

[balance 740]

Call me Balance when the P40 is released AND has a button.

Whether or not H&K releases it, they made at least one, and were thinking about releasing it.

If they released it, would it not be German?

They are in the business to win contracts and to make money, and they at least had the thought in their minds that a push button mag release on a striker fired pistol would allow them to win more contracts and make more money.

I'm sure Walther has the same idea, and we get the PPX and PPQ M2.

 

[ExTank]

I'm glad I bit the bullet and picked up that lonely PPQ sitting in my LGS's display; it's been there for a while, and according to the guy, I'm the first customer who even expressed an interest in it. I got me a fair little discount on it as he wanted to move it. Score!

 

[MoreIsLess]

I didn't like the Walther mag release at first. Now that I have gotten use to it on my PPQ, I sort of like it.

 

[ExTank]

I cut my [gun] teeth on the 1911 courtesy of Uncle Sam, and the push-button mag release is what I've got the most trigger-time on by far, but I took to the paddle-release like a duck to water.

 

[Trad Archer]

Well, I'll scratch that one off my wish list.

 

[wow6599]

the push-button mag release is what I've got the most trigger-time on by far, but I took to the paddle-release like a duck to water

+1 ExTank

 

[RBid]

I'm glad I got a PPQ with the paddle. I took to it immediately. I actuate it with my trigger finger, which I can do without adjusting my grip or coming off target. Reloads are incredibly efficient.

 

[PeterTheFish]

Sounds like you'll really like the new PPQ M2 then with its button style mag release.

Me? I prefer the paddle mag release. Really disappointed by this news, but after acquiring a PPS and liking the trigger on that, I think I might try to find a P99 QA for my next gun instead of the PPQ like I had planned.

Anyone know if a trigger job can be done to the QA trigger of the P99 to bring it down from 8 lbs to roughly 5.5 lbs? The travel/feel of the trigger is remarkably similar to Glock's stock trigger pull, except that it's slightly higher in pull weight. Supposedly 8 lbs vs. Glock's ~ 6 lbs. The PPQ trigger is stellar, but if I can get a P99 QA trigger down to around 5-6 lbs, I would be more than happy with that. Besides, I prefer the lack of front cocking serrations on the P99 and grip ergos are still very good. Not quite as contoured, but the overall shape is basically the same.

While I don't own a QA, I've done quite a bit of work on my PPQ and P99s and am very familiar with the trigger system. The P99 AS, P99 QA, and PPQ all use the same Sear Assembly. As such, the only way to increase pull weight on the QA would be to use a stronger Trigger Return Spring or Striker Spring. I would start by ordering the TRS for a P99 AS and installing that (come Feb when Walther USA has parts). If that doesn't do all the trick, they may have a heavier striker spring too.

Finally, bear in mind that although the QA doesn't have a glock style dingus like the PPQ, the design of the P99 trigger allows it to act as a drop safety. Why they switched to the dingus in the PPQ is beyond me - maybe it looks safer - but either way, no worries on having a lighter trigger on the P99 QA without the dingus. Feel free to PM with questions - it's a platform I've become very familiar with.

 

[HKGuns]

Well now, no push button P40 at '13 shot. Perhaps next year eh Balance?

 

[balance 740]

Well now, no push button P40 at '13 shot. Perhaps next year eh Balance?

You wish.

How about a few years ago, when a few prototypes were made, and brought into the country, eh?

Were they German?

Were they made by H&K?

Why?

 

[Pilot]

While the PPQ may be discontinued by Walther, it is being replaced with a similar model with a different mag release. I don't understand what the dissapointment is all about. We've had button mag releases for generations and they seem to work fine.

The overall changes from Smith & Wesson distribution and support to Walther USA is a huge positive as it means that Walther is taking the U.S. market seriously. I am looking for an expanded, a better product line from Walther. Maybe we'll get a .22 auto that isn't made from a pellet gun, and some some other interesting variations on the P99, etc.

 

[5-SHOTS]

For the european market the ambi-paddle version is still the only one offered (www.carl-walther.de).

 

[Jeff Cook]

Like the mag release as well

I got mine in Jan of 2013 and I have to say I really like the mag release. If they are discontinuing the PPQ I suppose I will have to get some extra mags pronto!

 

[TriTone]

Walther & Smith & Wesson never merged, they had an import and marketing partnership that ended in 2012.
Walther now has its own channels & no further relationship with S&W.
Denis

Does this affect the PPK and PPK/S? Anybody know?

 

[River Wraith]

The PPK and PPK/S are beautiful little guns, but are at best outdated and at worst obsolete with the PPS on the market.

 

[River Wraith]

Does this mean Earl's Repair no longer has a monopoly on German made Walthers in the US?