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[SamlautRanger]

Phantom warrior,

Go back and read the post I posted on this thread. I would try to get as much experience as you can in your 4 years. For the best way to get a high paying job after a few years in the military, after your infantry stint volunteer for Special Forces (18 series MOS) especially is you get training as a 18D (SF Medic) many job openings over 6 figures when you get out. Try your hardest to get a Ranger School slot. Try to get a slot at the US Army Infantry School's Sniper course. Also, work on your civilian education and try to get out with an Associates Degree-many on post education systems to help you do this. Save up your money and work hard. Also, helps to make contacts. Keep up a good image and sho respect ot your superiors and work hard and it will help you when you get out.

 

[strambo]

That DVD is a great idea James. I'm in Iraq now...I had to figure it out the hard way!

Phantom, you can get here with 4 years infantry, you'll likely end up doing site security type stuff as opposed to "high speed" PSD work though. Currently there is a high enough demand for people that you don't have to have a Specops background (depending on the company, contract, location etc..), that could change again. DOD is probably gonna start cracking down on pay, standards and limiting the number of companies that can operate over here...so go with a bigger one and not a small start-up if possible.

 

[Aikibiker]

Some of the responses to this thread have made all of us look bad. I should think having Oleg himself start this thread would be enough of an introduction. Then again some people just have to do things the hard way.

I wish I could qualify for a job as a contractor. Unfortunately my sterling military career ended at MEPS when I wouldn't lie on the application like my recruiter wanted me too so he wouldn't have to fill out two pieces of paper to get a waiver. If they ever start hiring Corrections Officers I am there. On the plus side I am honest, hard working, and have at least a rudimentary knowlege of which end of a gun the fast moving pieces of lead come out of and how to use my hands and then write the proper report afterwards. Of course on the minus side I have zero experience, no knowlege of tactics except what I have read, and I don't even know what I don't know.

However if any of you that are out there doing this stuff would like to share some stories with us I for one would sure like to listen.

 

[SamlautRanger]

My old Team.

 

[Soap]

SamlautRanger- I have that picture hanging up in my garage where I train

 

[Texian Pistolero]

An engineer contractor (non-military,) told me that you can get compassionate exceptions to go home (death in family) and still keep tax status.

But circumstances have to be certified bt the U.S. Consulate.
Second hand info, may be true.

 

[pete f]

I did not know Oleg owned the site, and I thought at first the picture was one of his posters that at times are a bit ambiguous. I would not have accepted that these guys were real, they do not fit the model I have come to accept as the norm. I am a contractor (construction) not(operations) but I have done enough that I would say most of the guys i have met who are "real" seem to fit two molds, one is the hard core trainer, the so fit is makes you sick, tiger woods body type. The second is the Doug Plank,Scott Stevens type. built, no fat, quiet, funny, but put your head down and they are going to knock your head off. Those two did not fit the type.

I would have made a comment if I had been on faster.

 

[itgoesboom]

My first thought on opening the thread and seeing the two operators, and then seeing the photo that SamlautRanger posted, was "man, I wouldn't want to run into those guys in a darkened ally".

Upon further consideration though, if I am ever in darkened alley, I think those are exactly the people that I would want to run into.....and hope that they would keep me safe.

I.G.B.

 

[one45auto]

Forget contract security, does anyone know how to break into the private investigator/detective field??

 

[triggertime]

You can't judge a book, or a person by its cover. That way of thinking is not only myopic, but close-minded and juvenile as well.

FYI, James Yeager is a real deal hardcore trainer who's BTDT. Not only does he have a keen sense of humor, he won't hesitate to knock your head off if necessary.

Show the man some respect.

 

[david_reeves]

Originally posted by Optismo

"You must be joking Yeager.

Do you have to be an overweight twin to do this type of work?"

I guess some people never really left High School.

I have me Yeager, and trained with his company on more than one occassion.

He IS the real deal. Period.

He and his instructors, and a couple members of his team that I met have my utmost respect for thier professionalism and thier skills.

Period.

Dave

 

[SinistralRifleman]

Damn...some of you guys would be better off walking into oncoming traffic, than saying some of the ???? you just posted here.

Since Yeager has been busy in Iraq, I have not had the opportunity to train with him personally yet. I have trained with some of his instructors and they are top notch. In fact I am taking several classes from them this week, and I am very much looking forward to it.

 

[TheDutchman]

SamlautRanger does not look like you and your team screw around for being old fat guys.

 

[Soap]

SamlautRanger does not look like you and your team screw around for being old fat guys.

So you're giving a compliment followed by an insult in the same sentence? Did you see his team's background that his posted:

All I can say is my time in in Iraq I served with the best team I had ever been on. My team had 3 ex SEAL, 4 ex Special Forces (green berets) and 1 ex Army Infantry Captain (who was a former instructor for urban and CQB combat)

This is seriously the worst thread I have ever read on THR. Can we please show more respect?

 

[wannabesh*thead]

I have a question. What does a sheriff's deputy from a middle of nowhere berg in TN have to teach GSG9 or any other top flight counter terrorist teams? Seems Yeager only left teaching Delta and FBI HRT off his resume.

Having the endorsement of Sinistralrifleman ranks up there with team leader from AMC Theater SWAT team . Uh actually not quite that high.

 

[Otisimo]

I was going to pile on, since I have been insulted here as well.

It is Oleg's thread and Oleg's forum.

Also, whatever Dick Marcinko may have done with his literary career (made piles of money?), he has street cred by any measure as an operator.

What about this guy though? True mountain badass.

 

[The Rabbi]

I wasnt sure whether to take Dick Marcinko's books as self-parody or not.

Maybe people here have been a little harsh and overly critical.

I know if people were shooting at me I'd want those two guys in front of me.

 

[Ivy Mike]

Forget contract security, does anyone know how to break into the private investigator/detective field??

You'd be well served by some knowledge of investigations and the laws governing them. A fast moving aspect of this is computer forensics. The art of ripping every little bit of knowledge from technology as possible and being able to present it in court.

http://www.intenseschool.com offers such a course and the instructor who teaches it own and operates his own forensics company.

 

[James Yeager]

I give. You found me out.

The next time you smart mouths are in Baghdad stop by and see me. I live not far from the Embassy across the street from the Blackwater house. You could talk your smack right to my face and cut out all of this "internet middleman" business.

Ohh and my bio on the website where it says I trained all of those Counter Terrorist teams...I made that up. What could a hick Cop from TN have to show anyone? True experts only come from big cities. I can't shoot either. I made all of that up.

Oleg might tell you he has taken clases from me. I paid him to say that...

Richard Marcinko? He has been in ond out of Baghdad several times this last year. How many times have YOU been here? Have you EVER been outside the U.S.? I bet most of you haven't been out of your HOUSE!

I have found over the years that there are a LOT of brave people on the net talking crap. They say things they would NEVER say to someone's face. They are cowards and have pitiful little lives and the only way they can retaliate is by trying to bring other folks down. I can only assume that they had lunch money taken from them as a child and they strike back not from thier desk with great vengence.

I didn't take your lunch money. I didn't pull your underwear over your head. I didn't tape notes to your back....

The HIGH road? I think not.

 

[itgoesboom]

Yeager,

I am sorry that people had to make the comments that they did on this thread.

People like you are exactly the type of people that we should be encouraging to stay and participate in these forums. I am sure that the majority of us could actually learn quite a bit from you, and others like you.

Hopefully the actions of a few won't drive you away.

Stay safe.

I.G.B.

 

[SamlautRanger]

Did not care much for the insult of calling my old team a bunch of old fat guys. There was only one guy on the team who was a little fat, yet he could probably out shoot, out run you anyday. How many combat tours do you have? How many real workd firefights have you been in? Apparantly, since you have never been there and done that, you do not know how wearing body armor, cold weather gear, and magazines all over can give a appearance of looking a little bigger. As for old guys, well 2 guys in our team were in the early 50s, one was 28, and the rest of us were in our mid to late 30s. I would hardly call that old. Better than to have a 19-20 year old with no expereince. There guys kept me alive for the 6 months I was in Iraq. They are Brothers. Don't take kindly to insults, even if they are passive. Where is your combat record. Or do you just like buying guns and watching action movies, but do not have the balls to go do yourself. Yeager it seems has also been there, and is one of the Sheepdogs watching you sheep. If you aint been there and done it then keep your mouth shut, and most of us who have been there and done that know when to keep our moutn shut and know reality.

Dan, thanks for sticking up more me and my team. You are a good man, one I am glad to call a friend and one who has a true warrior/hunter spirit.

 

[Jeff White]

This one's done....Jeff