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“You’re not a S.E.A.L. ‘till you have eaten Italian steel…†Anonymous

Thus begins the sordid tale of the M9 that is oft repeated in gun shops and firearms related web-boards the nation over. Anyone who asks questions about the Beretta M9/92 pistol long enough will inevitably hear about how a bunch of S.E.A.L. team members were killed/maimed/deformed by the slides of the M9 pistol breaking in half and flying back at the shooter, decapitating many brave men . Or maybe you will hear about how the frames on the M9/92 pistols can shatter like plate glass if you shoot more than 1,000 rounds through them. I am sure there is somebody out there blaming the Titanic on a Beretta M9/92.

As any experienced firearms enthusiast knows, rumors run WILD in the gun world. There are more silly fads and idiotic rumors in the gun culture than there are among pre-teen girls. Sometimes the bull flows so freely that a fellow needs hip waders and a lifejacket to keep from drowning in it. Some stories, however, are true or have at least SOME grain of truth to them. The trick is being able to...

wade through the baloney to find the truth. With this in mind, I decided to set out in search of actual proof of the M9/92 horror stories that so many recite so freely.

The Saga Begins:

In the early 1980’s the Military began looking for a new sidearm to replace the inventory of over 25 different pistols and revolvers then in service with the military, and the more than 100 different types of ammunition for those sidearms. Chief among the inventory of pistols to be replaced was the venerable old 1911 handgun that had been in service for 70 years. According to a Comptroller General’s report (PLRD-82-42) dated 3-8-82, the military had 417,448 .45 caliber pistols in inventory. The plan began to run into opposition when it was announced that the new sidearm would be chambered in the NATO standard 9mm cartridge. Many saw the move to a smaller caliber as a step in the wrong direction. Still others questioned the need for the adoption of a new pistol at all. According to PLRD-82-42, the General Accounting Office actually recommended purchasing more .38 caliber revolvers or converting the existing 1911 pistols to fire the 9mm round as a less expensive alternative to adopting a new weapon.

The Army eventually made headway and in November of 1983 placed a Formal Request for Test Samples (FRTS) to several commercial arms makers in the US and around the world. Eight makers submitted a sample lot of 30 pistols by the deadline of January of 1984, and by August of the same year the testing was completed. (NSIAD-88-46) Of the eight makers who submitted test samples, 4 were technically unacceptable and 2 removed themselves from competition. The two surviving companies were SACO (importing Sig-Sauer pistols at the time) and Beretta. (NSIAD-88-46) After a controversial bidding process (some allege Beretta was tipped off about SACO’s bid so they could lower the per unit cost on their candidate by $1.00 and win the contract) the Army signed a contract with Beretta for 315,930 pistols. This number was later increased to 321,260 pistols. The new pistols would bear the military name of M9. (NSIAD-88-46)

The Problems Arise:

The M9 pistol program ran into trouble when in September of 1987 the slide of a civilian model Beretta 92SB pistol fractured at the junction where the locking block mates into the slide. The broken half of the slide flew back at the shooter (A member of the Navy Special Warfare Group) injuring him. (NSIAD-88-213) In January and February of 1988 respectively, 2 more military model M9 handguns exhibited the same problem, injuring 2 more shooters from the Navy Special Warfare Group.

All three shooters suffered facial lacerations. One suffered a broken tooth and the other two required stitches. (NSIAD-88-213)

The Army was doing unrelated barrel testing on current production civilian model 92SB pistols and military model M9 pistols and ran into the same slide separation issue. They fired 3 M9 pistols 10,000 times and inspected the weapons with the MPI process for evidence of slide cracks. They discovered that one of the weapons had a cracked slide. The Army then decided to fire all of the weapons until the slides failed. Failure occoured at round number 23,310 on one weapon, 30,083 on another, and 30,545 on the last weapon. (NSIAD-88-213)

Examination of the NSWG slides and the Army slides showed a low metal toughness as the cause of the problems with slide separation. The Army then began to investigate the production process of the slides. (NSIAD-88-213) At the time the frames of the M9 pistols were produced in the US, while the slides were produced in Italy. There are reportedly documents from the Picatinny Arsenal that report a metallurgical study blaming the use of Tellurium in the manufacturing process for the low metal toughness of the Italian slides, but I have been unable to independently verify this information.

After April of 1988, however, all slides for the M9/92 pistols were produced in the US. (NSIAD-88-213) As a part of the contract requirements, the Beretta Corporation had to build a plant inside the United States to produce the M9. It naturally took some time for the US plant (located in Accokeek MD.) to get into full production swing, so the Italian plant made the slides for a time.

Several GAO reports and testimony from GAO staff before Congressional Sub-Committees (NSIAD-88-213, NSIAD-88-46, NSIAD-89-59 are a few…) report the total number of slide failures at 14. Three occurred in the field with the NSWG and the other 11 occurred in the test lab. Only 3 injuries resulted from the slide separation problem. The Beretta Corporation changed the design of the M9 pistol so that even if a slide fractured, the broken half could not come back and hit the shooter causing injury.

Of the 14 slide separations reported, only 4 took place at round counts under 10,000. (NSIAD-88-213) No further slide fractures were reported after the change to the US manufactured slides.

The Beretta Corporation initially blamed the slide failures on the use of ammunition. They questioned both the use of non-NATO ammunition and the use of M882 ammunition. They suspected that both types of ammunition caused excessive pressure buildup inside the weapon causing barrel ringing issues during the initial testing of the M9 weapon and the slide separations experienced by the military. The Army determined that both barrel ringing and slide separation were caused by low metal hardness and not by any specific pressure level in the ammunition used. (NSIAD-89-59)

I have obtained documentation from a reliable source that demonstrates that the M882 ammunition was not excessive in its chamber pressures. Thus the explanation of metallurgical problems on a limited number of M9 pistols remains the only defensible conclusion.

Frame-Up:

Another problem that cropped up with production of the M9 pistol was a problem with frame cracks. In December of 1987 and January of 1988 routine lot testing of the M9 production pistols revealed frame cracks occurring at the rear of the grip area of the frame just above where the trigger bar rides. The Army representatives determined that the cracks did not affect the safety, reliability, or function of the weapons and were merely “cosmetic in nature.†(NSIAD-88-213)

The cracks, however, did violate the terms of the M9 contract, so the lots were rejected. Beretta continued production into February and March of 1988 with the effected frames, stockpiling them in hopes of a retrofit. In April of 1988 an engineering change was approved by Berretta and Army representatives that resolved the frame crack issues. The previously rejected lots were retrofitted with the new frame design and retested. The new frames did not display the cracking problem or any other problem during the tests and were subsequently accepted by the military. (NSIAD-88-213) There were 24,000 effected handguns produced with the defective frame. ALL of them were rejected and then retrofitted and accepted by the Army. (NSIAD-88-213)

The Magazine Controversy

Recent reports from Afghanistan and Iraq have reported less than satisfactory reliability with the M9 pistols traceable to the magazines. Until very recently, the magazines for the M9 pistol were produced by Mec-Gar. The military decided to go with another vendor, Checkmate, to supply the magazines for the M9. By all reports I have heard from the field, the new magazines are not made as well and are extremely sensitive to dirt and sand. Considering that the troops are using the M9’s in an area of the world that is populated by little else but dirt and sand, this makes the use of such magazines a bad idea.

Many soldiers have “written home†to family and friends and have managed to obtain the original production magazines made by Beretta through back channels. (The original factory magazines are of superior quality to any others I have found.) Reports have been extremely positive with the use of the original style magazines. The military has enough knowledge to understand that magazines and ammunition are the most common causes of reliability problems, and so their purchase of magazines that are not as reliable as the original production magazines is puzzling. They should resolve this by going back to the Beretta production magazines, or at least back to the Mec-Gar produced ones as soon as possible.

The 9mm Controversy:

A great deal of the hostility aimed at the M9 pistol is the result of its use of the 9mm cartridge. The military stated that its goals in searching for a new standard sidearm were to improve effectiveness, reliability, safety, and operational suitability of the sidearm over the .45 caliber pistols and .38 caliber revolvers then in use. (NSIAD-89-59)

Effectiveness is measured by range and accuracy, volume of fire, inherent lethality and lethality against body armor. Somehow the military’s study on the subject of effectiveness produced a proclamation that the 9mm NATO round was more accurate, had longer range and greater lethality inherently AND against body armor than the .45 caliber bullet. (There are some who believe this, and some who do not.) The method used to actually achieve these results is a shadowy combination of numerical calculations rather than on good hardcore scientific data like gelatin tests. (PLRD-82-42) The range and accuracy “tests†also seem to have been rigged in favor of the 9mm round by doing the measurements at 50 meters instead of 25. (The .45 caliber pistol’s sights were only regulated out to 25 meters…) It is a well known and documented fact that there are many .45 caliber 1911 pattern automatics that are capable of shooting 3†groups at 50 meters, thus one wonders how the military got the crazy idea that the .45 caliber bullet was not as accurate at that range. The idea that the 9mm NATO ball round hits harder at 50 meters than the .45 caliber round is also laughable. Certainly a 9mm weapon that can hold 15 rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber has greater CAPACITY than the 7+1 round .45 caliber pistol, but whether or not that translates into greater “firepower†is a matter of debate. (Is it better to hit someone with 3 puny rounds, or 1 round that knocks them out of the fight?)

The other measures are equally debatable. Is the M9 more reliable than the .45 caliber pistol? Well considering that many of the .45 caliber pistols in inventory had been in use through WWII, Korea and Vietnam, and that over 100,000 of them were no longer serviceable according to the military’s numbers, I am sure that a brand new pistol that had not suffered all of that abuse might indeed be a tad more reliable. (The fact that the .45 survived three nasty wars and became the favorite weapon of so many military and civilian shooters is a testament to how good a weapon it is.)

Is the M9 safer than the .45 caliber pistol? The addition of a firing pin safety in the M9 pistol does add safety should the pistol be dropped. The long heavy double action trigger does make it harder to accidentally fire the weapon through negligence, but most will agree that relying on a long heavy trigger rather than proper training to keep accidents from occurring is a poor strategy for safety. One could also argue that the heavy DA trigger makes it harder to hit an intended target when you need to, increasing the odds of missing a threat in actual combat and thus making a soldier LESS safe than with the single action 1911 pistol. Not to mention that the weaker 9mm round would not be as effective at stopping the threat coming at you if you did manage to hit it.

Another possible reason mentioned for adoption of the 9mm pistol was to make it more shooter friendly for small stature and female soldiers. While the 9mm is easier to control than the recoil of the big .45 caliber pistol, the Beretta 92 platform is ergonomically less than ideal for those smaller shooters. The wide grip and long trigger reach are WORSE for smaller shooters than the 1911 pistol with its short trigger and narrow grip. Conclusions

The Beretta M9/92 pistol has been in service with our military for almost 20 years now. After the production problems documented previously were addressed, the pistol proved to be mechanically sound and reliable, enduring hundreds of thousands of rounds with little trouble provided proper maintenance was supplied. A redesign in the locking block of the M9 pistol made changes to that important piece less frequent, causing the pistol to require even less time at the armorer’s bench.

The M9 is far from the perfect military sidearm. The 9mm ball ammunition that our troops must use in the M9 is a dismal man-stopper by most accounts. (Some disagree) The M9 itself is a large and heavy weapon for its job. (There are other 9mm pistols that hold more ammunition and weigh a fraction of what the M9 does.) The wide grip of the M9 is too big for many shooters, and the heavy double action trigger hinders accuracy. The Beretta M9’s competitor in the trials, the Sig-Sauer P226, suffers from the same hindrances of caliber, size and trigger pull. Many of the complaints against the M9 are the result of what it is: A 9mm double action pistol. Any 9mm DA pistol would get the same treatment.

After the initial bugs were worked out, the M9 pistol developed into a reliable combat proven weapon. Most current/former military personnel that I have been privileged to speak with while researching this article have stated a general satisfaction with the weapon’s reliability while citing the concerns about the size, weight and caliber that I have mentioned already. It has saved the lives of soldiers, law enforcement officers and civilians alike over the years. It remains today an accurate and reliable weapon suitable for personal defense. Few military sidearms have proven themselves to be as good a weapon as the M9 has turned out to be, despite the gunshop gossip to the contrary.

It remains worthy of our consideration when choosing a weapon.

DOCUMENTATION: All documentation cited in parenthesis are from Government Accounting Office documents. The strange number/letter combinations are the catalog numbers for these documents. You can obtain the very same documents through the GAO.

Many thanks to the numerous military personnel and others who helped me track down this information. It would have been impossible to do without your help!

Many thanks also go to the members of AR15.com, Berettaforums.net, and TacticalForums.com for their help in gathering information.

Tim Chandler, the writer of this story, can be reached via email at [email protected].
 
Hmmmm, so let me get this straight. After less than 5 years in service, 14 pistols had failed catastrophically due to the firing of around30,000 rounds in each pistol of standard ammunition. The fix was -- hehehe -- to -- giggle -- to make it so that WHEN the slides cracked they wouldn't fly into the faces of seals and break their teeth.... (pause for roaring, rolling on the floor hysterical laugh fit).

Apparently, there never was a fix and all of the slides in question are on the market and in circulation. Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside when they make me qualify with a 38 Special, it does!
 
Hmmmm, so let me get this straight. After less than 5 years in service, 14 pistols had failed catastrophically due to the firing of around30,000 rounds in each pistol of standard ammunition. The fix was -- hehehe -- to -- giggle -- to make it so that WHEN the slides cracked they wouldn't fly into the faces of seals and break their teeth.... (pause for roaring, rolling on the floor hysterical laugh fit).

There is a wealth of misinformation being flung around on this story.

The Beretta Forum posted the facts about this. It occurred in early units of the 92F where the slides had been made of steel which was not the proper formulation (too brittle). It happened when manufacture was being transferred from Italy fab to the US fab. Today's guns do not have that problem, but the "-S" modification was added anyway so that any slide which cracked could not release the rear portion and hit the operator.

The Army did extensive qual testing on the M9 and found that the average service life before the gun was found to be not repairable in the field was over 30,000 rounds. That did NOT mean the guns were no longer servicable, just that they had to go back for depot repair. Many M9 "range guns" in the service have well over 100,000 rounds of service on all original main parts. That's a pretty good record. As far as I know, the Army found zero cracked slides in their formal qual testing for the M9.
 
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Here's some food for thought...

At any given time my unit has issued out somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,000 M-9s. In discussion last week with our Armory Chief, he said that last year alone we down checked 720 M-9s (a direct quote) due to major component failure (cracks in the frame, slide, etc.) However, to my knowledge, we've never had anyone get hurt by a weapon breaking apart.

Now we do shoot a lot of ammo through our weapons, but nothing like 100,000 rounds per weapon. I recall previous discussions with some of our Armorers where they quoted something less than 10,000 rounds per weapon on those that failed. It's probably a safe bet that the hot NATO-spec ammo we shoot is a likely contributor to our high failure rates, but less than 10,000 rounds before a major parts failure? :confused:

Anyone know about the failure rates for our old military 1911s? It might be hard to come up with that number (except by taking a SWAG at it), but I bet it was better than 1 of 3 failing before 10,000 rounds.
 
I recall previous discussions with some of our Armorers where they quoted something less than 10,000 rounds per weapon on those that failed. It's probably a safe bet that the hot NATO-spec ammo we shoot is a likely contributor to our high failure rates, but less than 10,000 rounds before a major parts failure?

The data the Army put out for the results of their qual tests was in excess of 30,000 rounds fired (average across many guns) before a "major" failure defined as not foeld repairable. The acceptance criteria the Army had set which the gun must meet was 15,000, so it exceeded it by more than a factor of 2X. It's my understanding the Army used standard Nato ammo.

10,000 rounds typical to a failure for an M9 just is not in the ballpark. Mine has 15k and has the old "defective" design locking block. Zero failures. The guys on the Beretta board sing the same song. major failures on M9's (92FS) are so rare I can't remember ever seeing a post about one.

The 96FS (which is the .40 gun) does have a shorter life span by all accounts I read, and a 15k life average would not surprise me. It's virtually identical to the 92 and tht is a 9mm design, so the .40 is going to beat it up somewhat.
 
o.k., I'm glad to hear the Army tested to 30k rounds, and that the guys on the Beretta forum don't have the same problems I described. However, here in the Marine Corps Security Force Battalion, during weapon inspections last year, we failed 720 of our M-9s due to major component failure (i.e. not locally repairable). I'm not sure the number of our total inventory, but it's in the neighborhood of 2k plus or minus a hundred or two. That we down checked effectively 1 out of 3 of our M-9s is a significant failure rate, which was why me and the Armory Chief were talking about it (aside from me trying to squeeze some additional M-4s out of him).

The numbers I recall from the younger armorers for local maintenance was around 5k to 6k rounds for the first signs of breakage; basic stuff like springs, pins, etc. I don't know that we discussed the estimated numbers for the major failures, but I thought we were talking about 10k or less. Given the number of rounds we shoot per year, the 10k number would be realistic for wear on any given weapon.

I've had the Armorers inspect my personal Berettas (92FS, 96, M-9), and they have found nothing amiss. However, I don't have but a few thousand rounds through my guns collectively.
 
Yeah, maybe we need to be more like the kinder, gentler Army ;)

On the other hand, we could really save wear and tear on our weapons if we adopt the French model... "Remove weapon from original packaging only in the event of surrender" :evil:
 
Like I've been saying..

The slides take the most punishment, and yet Beretta for some stupid reason dug a big hole in them to weaken them. The front of the slide takes the most force, yet that is the thinest part on the Beretta's.

I don't really care how well they shoot, bad engineering is bad engineering. The most durable part, the grip, is overengineered; the part that can't be damaged, the barrel, is exposed, the part that takes the most force, the front of the slide, is a thin little thing, and to reduce recoil, you want the weight in FRONT not in the back, just what Beretta has backwards.

Expensive paperweights!!:neener:
 
o.k., I'm glad to hear the Army tested to 30k rounds, and that the guys on the Beretta forum don't have the same problems I described.

The Army tested far BEYOND 30k rounds. 30k is the average number where a non-field repairable failure was seen, as calculated by looking at the results from all the guns. The guns didn't all go to 30k, poop, and then end testing.
 
The numbers I recall from the younger armorers for local maintenance was around 5k to 6k rounds for the first signs of breakage; basic stuff like springs, pins, etc.

I don't dispute your particular data. I was just pointing out a universal truth of the internet: the one thing people like to do most of all is BITCH about how the gun they just bught wasn't perfect. Look at the Kimber series II fiasco. In reality, it probably affected less than 10% of the guns built during the "problem" time frame, but to look at the internet compliants you would have thought every gun they shipped showed up and died.

I am just saying that if cracking was a problem in 92's for civilain usage, it would be all over the internet. I honestly have never seen a post for a cracked slide and I hang out at the Beretta forum all the time. The only part that ever had a significant number of whines about it was the locking block, and Beretta fixed that.

The military is shooting the +p+ NATO ammo, so maybe theirs break more often. But for civilain usage, slide cracking is a problem that is about as commonly encountered as Bigfoot.
 
I will not say there was or has been a problem with the slides cracking only that I have never seen it and I dont know anybody that has.
I will also say that while I was in the Army for 10 years I (using 1911's) saw many failures and breakages with 1911's.
I wont say its a problem with the design either. I have seen the abuse the military puts these through. Not all but some of the guys just dont care about them, I have seen them used as hammers, thrown from vehicle to vehicle, falling off vehicles, thrown down and just basicly abused, badly.
Not to mention the abuse just from use. I was on a M1 tank and wore a 1911 in a sholder rig. I cant count the times it got slammed into the tank while I was wearing it just from the tank hitting bumps and me getting slammed around. The Beretta design has been around along time and im sure there has been problems, but name a firearm that hasnt had problems. Im sure that alot of the problems are just nothing more than abuse that is blown out of proportion.
 
But for civilain usage, slide cracking is a problem that is about as commonly encountered as Bigfoot.


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These pistols are junk, I spent eight years in the Corps and have seen many, many M9's break in many different ways. Then I worked at an indoor range that rents these pistols and have nineteen of them that have fallen apart, frames have cracked (on three of them) several barrels have cracked or seperated just forward of the chamber, replacing locking blocks seemed to be a full time job, and ALL of the frames had a lot of metal loss where the locking block contacts it.
The most upsetting thing is a friend of mine lost his life in Iraq when his Beretta s##t the bed when he needed it most, cause of the failure was a broken locking block.
They Marine Corps thinks the same way it would appear since they are looking for a replacement for the Beretta, guess whats on top of their list THE 1911 OF COURSE. Not to mention a lot of the Recon bubbas are already carrying 1911's with Wilson mags. GO figure. It's a design that been worling for how many decades now? Whats the old adage about if it ain't broke don't............
 
So instead of replace locking blocks as a full time job, they would rather tune extractors as a full time job?:p :p
 
I would say thats an exagerated statement. Like I said name 1 pistol or other firearm that hasnt ever failed, much less fail in Iraq. I was in the Gulf War and there wasnt much of anything that wouldnt fail. If you were replacing locking blocks like that then someone was doing something wrong because they just dont fail that quickly, thats the bottom line.
Its like changing the barrel on a 1911, you have to make sure that its fit properly, even if its called a drop in some fitting may be required.
Dont get me wrong, im not saying they are perfect pistols, just look at the Taurus 92's. They are almost clones but you dont here all these same problems from them. I do think there has been a slide cracking problem at some point, but I dont think its as bad as we all hear. I think that using a stronger recoil spring is called for, even more so on the 96 because it uses the same spring (13#) as the 9mm. I have spent more time fixing FTF, FTE, stovepipes and other problems on 1911's than I ever have on any other pistol.
 
My experience in the service is that GI's beat the s**t out of everything issued. Not just their weapons, everything. I was in before the 92 went into service and troops seem to have the mentality that "hey the gov't will buy a new one." I have a 92 and 1911, both are totally reliable, but when I reach for one, I grab the 92.
 
I was a Unit armorer for an HHD, and was effectively the BN Armorer, (none of the rest of the unit armorers in the BN knew thier a** from a muzzle), during the changeover. IIRC, the warning about slide failure was timed at about a month or two after the issue. I'd heard the scuttlebutt about SEALS using +P+ SMG ammo in the M9's, (I'm guessing so they didn't need to draw 2 types of 9mm ammo), and the warning specifically stated not to use +P+ ammo. It then went on with most the stuff that Steve in PA posted here earlier, and that bounty hunter has added to.
I never had to turn an M9 in to Depot Maint. for any type of repair, and the only FTF's we had were ammo related. (Darn few at that.) We shot regular ball, no SMG ammo, and reliability was flawless.
That said, I cried the day I had to turn in 6 M1911A1's, an M1911, and 37 M10 S&W's. (We had a dustoff unit attached.) The M1911 was the BN XO's issue, he was the capt. of our pistol team. (As he was a Major, we would tease him about the 'demotion' to Captian.;) ) We had one staff officer who declined to carry, and I used his 1911A1 (Remington Rand), and occaisonally an M10 in the field. (My homemade blanks always surprised people:) )
The one positive thing I can say for the M9's is that everyone's pistol Qual scores went up, even mine!;) (from 38/40 to 40/40.)
 
Yep, thats the same thing I have heard from Armorer's that I have spoken with. The only problems they have had is with misuseded pistols. Not that it hasnt happened, its just not as common as we have heard about. I love the 1911's but if you go to the 1911 forums you hear the same thing about them. Any firearm has problems, but once it hits the internet it gets blown all out of proportion and suddenly a pistol that was used to pound in tent stakes and broke is a POS.
Dont laugh, I have seen worse. Example, I was on tanks in the Army, we would have to check the end connectors on the track by tapping them with a hammer to see if they were tight. If you hear a thud it was lose if it had a high pitch sound it was tight. Well I have seen guys tapping away using their 1911's:banghead: And thats just the start of it. So dont be so quick to judge by what you hear. Im sure that behind most broken firearms there is a good story of misstreatment.
 
Beretta... One of the sweetest looking sidearms ever made. I just can't understand why they can't quite seem to eliminate this issue, that and the aluminum frame. :( I'll just stick w/ my 1911's, Sigs and Glock for now.
 
the amount of misinformation and ignorance, and just plain lies surrounding this issue continues to amaze me. Reading some of the above, I wonder why there haven't been field reports filed, or news coverage of some of the events. You know why? because they never happened that's why. If and when the Beretta is replaced you are going to see a ton of people cry foul about it, and then you will hear horror stories about the new pistols problems, and how they miss the Beretta. Blah blah blah,
 
IN MY EXPERIENCE AS A ARMORER I FOUND THAT THE LOCKING BLOCK IS THE FIRST TO GO ON A 92FS .
 
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