Preacherman
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I received this warning via the API List, originating from the Los Angeles Sheriff's Office:
Beretta 92F owners, take note...
WARNING: Beretta 92F slide cracks...
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Marshall
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Interesting, TY for passing it on!
SodaPop
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...................and the people with the 92FS don't have to worry about it, right?
Preacherman
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Sodapop, the warning applies to:
The FS is part of the "92F series" - so check it out!
1911Tuner
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Cracked Slides
I used to give my cracked 1911 slides out to friends to use for paperweights. 100,000 rounds is pretty good...I'd have bet that
the 92 Series pistols woulda busted'em well below that mark.
Nice pistols, those Berettas...Wish they made'em in .45 ACP with a
skinnier grip frame, though.
Ciao!
Tunero
I used to give my cracked 1911 slides out to friends to use for paperweights. 100,000 rounds is pretty good...I'd have bet that
the 92 Series pistols woulda busted'em well below that mark.
Nice pistols, those Berettas...Wish they made'em in .45 ACP with a
skinnier grip frame, though.
Ciao!
Tunero
George Hill
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Very high round counts with improper cleaning and lubrication... Okay.
Same thing with SIG P220s.
I'm not worried, but it's a good lesson to closely examine your handguns while you clean them regularly.
Same thing with SIG P220s.
I'm not worried, but it's a good lesson to closely examine your handguns while you clean them regularly.
I recently traded my 92FS in on a SA Milspec stainless 1911A1.
The Beretta worked flawlessly, never failed (maybe because I lubed it exclusively with Extra Virgin Olive Oil
), but I'm not lookin' back. The .45 ACP is a whole 'nother level, IMO.
The Beretta worked flawlessly, never failed (maybe because I lubed it exclusively with Extra Virgin Olive Oil
), but I'm not lookin' back. The .45 ACP is a whole 'nother level, IMO.BerettaNut92
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Out of curiosity, are they using +p or standard pressure ammo?
cratz2
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I've always wondered... with all the reports of cracked frames on Berettas... how many cracked slides have been reported on the Taurus knock-offs?
I've sent an awful lot of rounds down range with my PT99... including at least a couple thousand rounds of Corbon and Triton that I used to get at a very good price. I know mine is just one example, but I don't recall ever seeing reports of cracked slides on the Taurus pistols.
I've sent an awful lot of rounds down range with my PT99... including at least a couple thousand rounds of Corbon and Triton that I used to get at a very good price. I know mine is just one example, but I don't recall ever seeing reports of cracked slides on the Taurus pistols.
cracked butt
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I was always under the impression that 92f's were prone to cracking and that is why Beretta changed the design to 92FS to address the problem. Am I mistaken about this?
Grunt
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The main difference between the 92F and 92FS is in the hamer pin. The original 92F has a small head on the left side of the hammer pin. After a few slides broke sending the rear half back at a few shooters (supposidly SEALs), a notch was milled into the bottom the the left hand slide rail adn the hammer pin head was made larger and rode in that slot. Now when a slide breaks, it will only go back as far as the milled slot before the hammer pin head stops it from coming completely off the frame. Now of course you wouldn't want that to happen after firing the first round since the 9mm using ball ammo is only one step above throwing rocks at the bad guy you are going to want your 9mm to stay intact so you can finish firing your "failure to stop" drill. 
cracked butt
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"Now of course you wouldn't want that to happen after firing the first round since the 9mm using ball ammo is only one step above throwing rocks at the bad guy you are going to want your 9mm to stay intact so you can finish firing your "failure to stop" drill. "
Tell you what, I'll give you a whole mountain of rocks to throw at me while I hold My 92 loaded with one round of ball ammo, I'll even let you throw first.
Tell you what, I'll give you a whole mountain of rocks to throw at me while I hold My 92 loaded with one round of ball ammo, I'll even let you throw first.
1911Tuner
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Rocks
Cracked butt said:
Tell you what, I'll give you a whole mountain of rocks to throw at me while I hold My 92 loaded with one round of ball ammo, I'll even let you throw first.
Famous last words:
As David loaded his sling, the massive Goliath laughed and said:
"Okay sport...I'll give ya the first move."
All kiddin' aside...the 9mm ball round has put a lotta strong men in the dust,
Cheers!
Tuner
Cracked butt said:
Tell you what, I'll give you a whole mountain of rocks to throw at me while I hold My 92 loaded with one round of ball ammo, I'll even let you throw first.
Famous last words:
As David loaded his sling, the massive Goliath laughed and said:
"Okay sport...I'll give ya the first move."
All kiddin' aside...the 9mm ball round has put a lotta strong men in the dust,
Cheers!
Tuner
"***SEVERAL BERETTA 9MM PISTOLS DEVELOPED PISTOL SLIDE CRACKS WHERE THE SLIDE BROKE CAUSING THE WEAPON TO MALFUNCTION.***"
Well, Beretta fans should look at the bright side.
At least LASO didn't report these "F"-model slides flying off the frame and impaling the foreheads of any their deputies.
'Course, some people are still in denial over this, ah, ... inconvenient episode.
"All kiddin aside... the 9mm ball round has put a lotta of strong men in the dust"
9mm ball? You're kiddin', right? Even diehard 9minimeter mavins know better than that.
Well, Beretta fans should look at the bright side.
At least LASO didn't report these "F"-model slides flying off the frame and impaling the foreheads of any their deputies. 'Course, some people are still in denial over this, ah, ... inconvenient episode.
"All kiddin aside... the 9mm ball round has put a lotta of strong men in the dust"
9mm ball? You're kiddin', right?
Even diehard 9minimeter mavins know better than that.George Hill
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You haven't studied WWII have you?
SodaPop
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The 9mm LUGER killed plenty of people.
Badger Arms
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How many Ruger P85's have cracked slides? When Beretta came up with the 'fix' for the the 92F, it was simply to make sure the slide did not hit the shooter in the eye socket WHEN the slide cracked. It's a well known FACT that the Beretta has a weak slide and those slides crack frequently with regular pressure loads. It's not just overuse or improper cleaning and lubrication, this is a design defect.
Ruger was Dumbfounded when in the 88/89 timeframe, the Government had the chance to buy the Ruger P85 or any number of other guns on the market and they decided to stick with the Beretta. Not that it's that dangerous to the average shooter. If you have an FS, the slide is JUST as likely to crack as on the F, but you're less likely to be injured because of fail-safe system.
This is an old problem and I'd imagine that it's a very minor annoyance to the vast majority of owners and users. All things being equal, you're more likely to die if you are in front of the Beretta than if you are behind it. The same cannot be said of a Lorcin.
Ruger was Dumbfounded when in the 88/89 timeframe, the Government had the chance to buy the Ruger P85 or any number of other guns on the market and they decided to stick with the Beretta. Not that it's that dangerous to the average shooter. If you have an FS, the slide is JUST as likely to crack as on the F, but you're less likely to be injured because of fail-safe system.
This is an old problem and I'd imagine that it's a very minor annoyance to the vast majority of owners and users. All things being equal, you're more likely to die if you are in front of the Beretta than if you are behind it. The same cannot be said of a Lorcin.
peashooter
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Hmmmmmm. Mine doesn't say made in USA. So do the Italian 92's have that issue???
Badger Arms
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John, that was the take of the study. Slides began cracking in Military use shortly after it went in service on pistols with any number of rounds through them, not just 'high mileage' guns and not through abuse. The Seals tried shooting hot ammo or shooting underwater (whatever, I don't remember) and had a number of failures because of this. Funny, Ruger and Glock passed the underwater tests?
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BeLikeTrey
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Hmmm..
From what I heard it was the heavier grin bullets the 92 didn't like and that it was causing cracks in the slide. I was warned by a fairly knowledgeable fellow when I borowed my dad's. He told me to stay under 147 grain or it would possibly crack the slide. Dunno but since we have taken his advice the slide on my dad's is still just fine and it gets used ALOT.
From what I heard it was the heavier grin bullets the 92 didn't like and that it was causing cracks in the slide. I was warned by a fairly knowledgeable fellow when I borowed my dad's. He told me to stay under 147 grain or it would possibly crack the slide. Dunno but since we have taken his advice the slide on my dad's is still just fine and it gets used ALOT.
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