W.E.G.
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http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=4185030&convertTo=USD
There is something I must not be understanding?
There is something I must not be understanding?
was considering milsurp brass - not sure if I want this in my house
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Sam1911
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You were seriously considering purchasing half-a-million pounds of spent cases?
Or you just throught the garbled text was funny?
Or you just throught the garbled text was funny?
ReloaderFred
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Don't worry, "Mutilation not required".
The last time I took brass to the recycler, which was about 3 weeks ago, I received $1.91 a pound for it, which is the highest I've ever seen it. This lot of brass could become quite expensive.
Just for information, two different cartridge manufacturers told me at the SHOT Show last month that they were paying $6.24 a pound for new cartridge brass. One told me they weren't buying any product at the present time, since they couldn't afford to make cartridge cases from $6.24 a pound brass and still sell them at a profit. This is part of the reason some manufacturers have been out of brass that takes a large amount of material, such as .45 Colt.
Hope this helps.
Fred
The last time I took brass to the recycler, which was about 3 weeks ago, I received $1.91 a pound for it, which is the highest I've ever seen it. This lot of brass could become quite expensive.
Just for information, two different cartridge manufacturers told me at the SHOT Show last month that they were paying $6.24 a pound for new cartridge brass. One told me they weren't buying any product at the present time, since they couldn't afford to make cartridge cases from $6.24 a pound brass and still sell them at a profit. This is part of the reason some manufacturers have been out of brass that takes a large amount of material, such as .45 Colt.
Hope this helps.
Fred
howlnmad
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Wow, that's quute a bit of brass. I'm curiius of your intentions if you win the bid. Are you planning on sorting all this? The way I read it, it doesn't come in one big lot, it's broken up over time. Are you aware of what the shipping charges will be? You're not looking at a USPS flat-rate box, you're looking at trucking charges, at least 10 loads, actually more. Is the DOD going to load them or do you have to have someone come in and di it?
ranger335v
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If you are wondering if a gov. agency notice is accurate, yeah, you're missing something. What you see there is "boiler plate" wording posted by people who don't have a clue what they are selling or doing.
Quoheleth
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And, you'll also notice "price per pound will be adjusted..." so you buy it for $X.XX per pound, but that's no guarantee that it will not go up. Even a few cents a pound at 250 tons will eat your sack lunch a couple times over.
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CapnMac
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Howlin, check the ad, they--the DRMO--are "loading by open top conveyance only".
I'm reading that to mean they are dumping using a front-end loader or a tipping bin on a forklift.
500,000# over six months is six collections of 83,000# or twelve collections of about twenty tons each.
Still wondering about that "42cal" they have listed . . .
I'm reading that to mean they are dumping using a front-end loader or a tipping bin on a forklift.
500,000# over six months is six collections of 83,000# or twelve collections of about twenty tons each.
Still wondering about that "42cal" they have listed . . .
BADUNAME37
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I bet one or two casings out of ten would be worth salvaging for reloading. I bet much of it will be dented, smashed, etc. It has to be, just think of the weight and all the brass on the bottom would probably be crushed as soon as the truck hits a big bump in the road!
You would need like 100 people just to help you sort it all. Are you looking at $500,000 worth of brass up to possibly DOUBLE that? That sure sounds like what it is saying when I read it!
The only way I would be interested in that is if I had a HUGE FOUNDRY and was looking particularly for brass to melt down. I'm not sure just how they sort steel primers from that as well as any cases that may still be loaded!
You would need like 100 people just to help you sort it all. Are you looking at $500,000 worth of brass up to possibly DOUBLE that? That sure sounds like what it is saying when I read it!
The only way I would be interested in that is if I had a HUGE FOUNDRY and was looking particularly for brass to melt down. I'm not sure just how they sort steel primers from that as well as any cases that may still be loaded!
BADUNAME37
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I was just looking at the picture of the roll-off dumpster and the two casings standing up.
I bet they were the best two casings they could see out of a whole roll-off FULL!
LOL
I bet they were the best two casings they could see out of a whole roll-off FULL!
LOL
amlevin
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Our local recyclers buy range brass as "Yellow Brass" and it's at $2.00/lb now.
evan price
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This will be bought by Scharch or Black HIlls or somebody like that. The weight of the casings doesn't crush the brass. I bought one lot of mil brass once. It was a lot of brass. I finally sold it all. There was a lot of crap like shotgun hulls, crimped primer 9mm and stuff in there but there were also m60 links and stuff like that. I would not enter into a "CONTRACT" and then have them do price adjustments. It's like having cake and eating it, too.
788Ham
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I'm with you W.E.G., I might want some of the brass, but the balls with attachments would have to be sorted out! Don't think the Mrs. would cotton to that! LOL
rfwobbly
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Buy all that 42 caliber you can. It's bound to get very popular.
medalguy
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For those of you who have never seen a bid document, here's a little translation:
"Brass is stored in hoppers" just like those shown in the pic. The government will top load into your truck, which means they will use a front-end loader or similar to scoop up whatever is in the hopper and dump it into your open-top truck. The "with attachments" means stripper clips, links, cans, or whatever happens to fall in the hopper.
The price is adjusted every month as a percentage of the then-current market price for scrap copper. That's industry standard so nobody gets screwed on the price. How would you like to buy all the brass from Ft Benning for 6 months and then have the price drop 50% next month?
And yes, most of the brass will be usable, as long as it's not blanks. I suppose the 42 is just a misprint but who knows what they're experimenting with today???
"Brass is stored in hoppers" just like those shown in the pic. The government will top load into your truck, which means they will use a front-end loader or similar to scoop up whatever is in the hopper and dump it into your open-top truck. The "with attachments" means stripper clips, links, cans, or whatever happens to fall in the hopper.
The price is adjusted every month as a percentage of the then-current market price for scrap copper. That's industry standard so nobody gets screwed on the price. How would you like to buy all the brass from Ft Benning for 6 months and then have the price drop 50% next month?
And yes, most of the brass will be usable, as long as it's not blanks. I suppose the 42 is just a misprint but who knows what they're experimenting with today???
Hey_Allen
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I wonder if it's the 40mm casings they're referencing, rather than 42cal...
That being said, those are aluminum, not brass.
That being said, those are aluminum, not brass.
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