Wash Post : ATF Vault A Monument To Our Failure

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Of course, weapons in the vault that are not so easily written off as useless. The M1 rifle, for instance, and even a 20mm antitank gun, bring back memories of the heroism and sacrifice of U.S. troops during World War II.

The Lahti is a Finnish weapon, used against Russians during the 4-month Soviet invasion of Finland before WWII, and in the aftermath fighting that followed, known to the Finns as the *Continuation War.*

Of course, the Lahti also served Cuban exile groups sponsered by the CIA attacking supply ships in Cuban harbors in the 1969. And a few US *advisers* to the Cubanos may have gone along on some of those raids, some even as gunners. When the international arms trading firm of Interarmco arranged a nice swap with the Finnish government in 1959 for the trade of 100,000 WWII British Sten guns, the Lahtis and some captured Russian belt-fed machineguns were included in the deal, and it was generally figured at the time that they turned up on the civilian market only as a cover to arrange a possible alternative source of the guns turning up in exile group hands.

At one point, the activities of competing federal agencies resembled a Chinese fire drill as the FBI would officiously sieze the weapons of exile raiders, only to have new ones supplied by the CIA and military intelligence.
That included arms up to and including Sherman tanks that had *somehow* slipped through the demilitarization process before getting into the Cubano raiders' hands.

A planned second invasion of the island not deperndent on promised US air support that wouldn't show up was planned for early 1964, but never materialized. But interestingly, the investigation into that raid was centered on Dallas rather than Miami.
 
"Why would someone want this gun rather than that one?" Special Agent Daniel Woloszynowski asked, an M11 in hand. "Because it may be more readily available, it fires 30 rounds instead of 10 and it just looks cool to kids."

He has a point. If we can get such weapons out of the hands of those who think they look so cool, maybe we can end that cycle of violence that's killing so many of America's youth. Why, if it saves the life of even one child, it'll be worth it.

Accordingly, they need to get such weapons out of the BATF/E arsenals, and reissue M1 rifles when those agents need to be armed instead. That should help ease the problem considerably.

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Is that a snake biting the ATF agent's boot in that first picture? :D

As for the article, that's what I call propaganda. Offers no intelligent, verifiable facts, just emotional hyperbole designed to fire up the lesser minds of America.
 
I once had a classroom discussion with an "anti" professor who had some kind of advisory connection to law enforcement.

He told me that the police had a vault filled with "thousands" of confiscated weapons. He thought this was a great reason for more gun control.

Sez me "Professor, you mentioned that the police have thousands of weapons locked up."

He nodded.

"So these were, presumably, confiscated from thousands of criminals."

He nodded enthusiastically.

"Well, professor, these guns are locked up . . . can you tell me how many of the criminals these were taken from are still locked up?"

"Well, most have probably served their sentences, so . . . "

"So, professor, it's policy to punish guns, but not criminals? NO WONDER we have so much crime! The bad guys are still out there, and the innocent guns are still in prison!"

Much laughter from class, red face on professor.
 
Hank B,

You have no respect for authority. :D

When I was in college 20 years ago, I *wish* I had such an opportunity to lecture to the Lecturers. But, I swear, they were not nearly as obviously socialist as what I hear about now-a-daze. Granted, my antenna were just being tuned back then, but, geez, college seems such an unfriendly place for anyone who believes in individual rights and responsibility.

Good job on the Prof. Enjoy your D-minus. :neener:

Rick
 
so the guy got stabbed to death because he didn't get his gun out fast enough...and the biggest problem the reporter sees is that he apparently didn't pay the $5 tax for an AOW??

*** is wrong with people??
 
Wonder what the maximum sentence is for a gun?
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"...NO WONDER we have so much crime! The bad guys are still out there, and the innocent guns are still in prison!"
Absolutely correct. There is no reason these imprisoned firearms cannot be rehabilitated and returned to society. Using today's outstanding computer technology, the firearms can be ballistically fingerprinted and released. Their physical presence is no longer required "as a reference room for identifying weapons confiscated from convicted felons or recovered after crimes." As they are all "crime guns," it is already illegal for them to hang out with criminals and should they be caught doing so, right back in the slammer for them.

So release these misunderstood and unwarrantedly hated and feared firearms into society. Let upstanding American citizens adopt them into their homes so they may live a long and productive life in freedom.

Not to mention, it will give the Democrats and media something to whine about other than Iraq.
 
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