WASR-10 Battlefield longevity and reliability Same as original AK?

[Curiousity]

Basically i want to know and start a debate on the Wasr-10 if it is combat effective, will it last on the battlefield or will its low quality not prove to be as reliable as the russian AK?

Please let me know, i am buying so many saigas, but i want an AK-47 looking Rifle and saigas just don't cut it, even after the conversion. The only thing that concerns me is that it might not last as long in the battlefield as the Saiga...

What do you think>

 

[mordechaianiliewicz]

Well, that's hard to say, but I'd bet it would last plenty long. Only issue is that it isn't a very accurate weapon.

 

[MTMilitiaman]

I have done terrible, terrible things to mine that I do not wish to repeat nor speak of in public, yet that ~8 lbs masochistic hunk of stamped sheet metal and polymer actually seems to enjoy it.

I am convinced that when the world ends, all that will be left are the cockroaches and AKs, and I am not sure it matters what type of AK it is any more than it matters what type of cockroach it is. They may not all be created equal, but they will all long outlive us humans.

 

[ZombiesAhead]

I can't think why they wouldn't hold up just as well unless one of the US parts was inferior (grip, trigger assembly, etc). If you have the means, pick up a spare parts kit for $25 as I did.

http://www.dsarms.com/prodinfo.asp?number=KVARAK1

"Romanian 7.62x39mm Maintenance Kit. Includes recoil spring, firing pin, extractor, extractor spring, trigger/hammer spring and disconnector spring"

 

[Curiousity]

So it seems to be that all AK rifles will be as dependable as what they are trying to imitate, the Original Russian AK. Doesn't matter who made it. They will all be reliable and dependable.

Hmmmmm, The WASR-10 is sounding real nice now.

 

[Curiousity]

Anyone care to chime in?

 

[MAX100]

I will chime in with this torture test review that was done on the WASR-10.

WASR-10 Torture Test Review:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/79010/firearm_review_romanian_ak47_variant.html



GC

 

[collateral]

there were several weekends where I put 1000 rounds through my wasr, and it held up really well. I did clean it often, which can't hurt. but it did have a really high round count on it.

 

[El Tejon]

My brother intentionally set an Egyptian AK on fire. The gun still works even though he refuses to clean or lube it (against the urging of his brother).

 

[TexasRifleman]

I've never said a kind word about my WASR-10 since I got it.

I can't stand the thing, it shoots Minute of Barn........

That said, I don't know that there is anything I could do to it to stop it from running short of taking it apart.

Without an actual breakage I don't see any reason why one would ever fail any more often than the "real deal"

I do worry about the US made parts, a couple of them look like MIM.

Not that MIM is bad, that's a whole religious debate in itself.....

 

[HorseSoldier]

So it seems to be that all AK rifles will be as dependable as what they are trying to imitate, the Original Russian AK. Doesn't matter who made it. They will all be reliable and dependable.

As an initial note: AK reliability is heavily overstated on the internet. They're solid guns (if made properly), but if you've never had one jam or seen one jam, you've never really pushed them hard.

That said, if the parts have correct clearances and tolerances, an AK should run whether it was made in Russia, Romania, or in a shed on the Pakistani border. The other question would be whether the Romanians (or whoever, to include US compliance parts) cut any corners using cheaper steel or other materials where it matters, etc. If they did, you might see failures being more common later in the lifespan of the weapon. I'm not saying the Romanians do so, but only that that might be a second issue on longevity and dependability of their AKs.

 

[Picard]

I think that says it. An AK is an AK, no matter who makes it, it will be durable.

 

[pgeleven]

there were several weekends where I put 1000 rounds through my wasr, and it held up really well

and that thing didnt burst into flames? i pump about 3 mags through mine in the course of an hour and im afraid it will set the ground on fire when i set it down.

 

[texfed]

I've had my wasr-10 since the ban expired..only reason I got it was a great deal. I really had no use for it. Well, this puppy can get 1/2-3/4 inch groups at 100yards from a rest on Rusky optics, has never jammed on the crap ammo I have for it..and has cases of ammo shot thru it over the years. Not bad for a Century Arms nearly freebe. Still looks new too. By the way....in spite of everything...it's not on my to die for list!

 

[The Deer Hunter]

I think as long as it is pointy and goes boom it will remain on the battlefield, whatever and wherever that is.

 

[theken206]

ive abused mine something fierce over the last three years and shes still running like the day I got her.

lots of snow and ice, LOTS of gritty dirt and muck and mud and still going strong with good mags and ammo

 

[Bartkowski]

1/2-3/4 inch groups at 100yards

I'll believe that when I see it.

If it's true you have one of a kind.

 

[goldie]

i bought one last year for 400.00,at 50 yards with a red dot sight,i can keep all shots pretty well inside a pie plate. it was never meant to be a tackdriver,but for the money,its rugged,reliable,will chamber & fire anything you feed it.i think its a bargain priced gun,& i would highly recommend it.

 

[kcshooter]

I've put over 500rounds thru mine is a session. It handled that just fine.

That said, I've never been on the battlefield with it.....

 

[Prince Yamato]

Just to be clear, it's not that AKs don't have issues, it's just that in the very rare instances they do, the problem can usually be traced to something other than the rifle, like bad ammo or a Promag magazine.

 

[collateral]

no, it never set fire. the handguards have been smoking very bad before, but keep in mind, I didn't shoot 1000 rounds all at once. it was over the course of 2 or 3 days.

I only ever fed it wolf and golden tiger.

 

[W.E.G.]

Usually much longer than the mortals who bear them.

 

[Curiousity]

Some very clear opinions, they are just opinions. They do make you think and i agree with most of you folks here, some great information.

Thank you for making this an enjoyable thread for me.

MAX100 Thank you for the wonderful review, the torture test was a nice article.

 

[pgeleven]

i call bull on the 1/2-3/4 groups. im sorry but it just doesnt seem feasable to me. i am no 'sniper' but ill take a 3 inch group at 100 yards any day with my WASR and call it impressive

 

[kcshooter]

i am no 'sniper' but ill take a 3 inch group at 100 yards any day with my WASR

Heck, I keep 6-8" groups at 100 yds and thought that was impressive. Guess not. However, it's still all the accuracy I need out of one.