Wasting money on an Otis Kit?
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I really like the Bore Snakes. I have one for my deer rifle, .22, shotguns and I keep them all in a flat plastic fishing box with a old t-shirt and toothbrush. It's all I ever need. Then I always have all of them and they take up hardly any room.
CCMO
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I normally use Bore Snakes first, followed by traditional "rod & patches" as required and a regular bore brush if needed.
That's not to say anything against Otis products, just that I've never found a need to add any of them to the tool kit.
That's not to say anything against Otis products, just that I've never found a need to add any of them to the tool kit.
mpmarty
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I use the OTIS for all my AKs 5.45, .223 and .308 but rods for all bolt guns and pistols. The OTIS method prevents muzzle damage that is possible with a rod when you can't clean from the breech end.
Master Blaster
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I have been using one for about 5 years, I love mine.
Revolvers you have to use a jag on the short cable and push it from the muzzle, yes this works with the right patch and proper jag. Its alot less destructive on the crown than using any rod.
When my rifles stop shooting well, I use Sweets 7.62 on a patch and pull it through and let it sit for a few minutes, then I pull another patch through and repeat if necessary. I have found that Sweets eats bronze brushes. I have also found there is no point to using a bronze brush on a rod with an aggressive copper solvent.
The otis kit will pull any brush made through a rifle bore to clean carbon fouling, better than any rod I have ever used will Push a brush.
But we all have our opinions. The old tactical kit I bought came with a .17 caliber cable for airguns, and I use this cable on my .17 HMR rifles it works great as well.
Revolvers you have to use a jag on the short cable and push it from the muzzle, yes this works with the right patch and proper jag. Its alot less destructive on the crown than using any rod.
When my rifles stop shooting well, I use Sweets 7.62 on a patch and pull it through and let it sit for a few minutes, then I pull another patch through and repeat if necessary. I have found that Sweets eats bronze brushes. I have also found there is no point to using a bronze brush on a rod with an aggressive copper solvent.
The otis kit will pull any brush made through a rifle bore to clean carbon fouling, better than any rod I have ever used will Push a brush.
But we all have our opinions. The old tactical kit I bought came with a .17 caliber cable for airguns, and I use this cable on my .17 HMR rifles it works great as well.
DawgFvr
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I use it on every weapon...from my M1 Garand down to my Kel Tec P3AT. I also use a bore snake...but only on clean barrels.
Unless it's some kind of uber-expensive tactical rig or sniper rifle, (and even then, it's really a more of a "better safe than sorry" kind of thing) I just don't get all the obsession with "grit" and the "wrong" kind of rod.
As long as you don't beat the barrel at funky angles with steel cleaning tools, just what kind of damage does everyone think they're capable of that a bullet moving a couple thousand fps, and pushed by a couple thousand psi., gasses burning at around 2000 degrees won't do?
Maybe we shouldn't be firing the rifles at all. That's the sure way to prevent wear on the barrel...
Other than not shaving on the crown with a rod of equal or greater hardness than the barrel, or using a rusty bent Comblock SKS cleaning rod with a hammer, just what is with this obsession?
As long as you don't beat the barrel at funky angles with steel cleaning tools, just what kind of damage does everyone think they're capable of that a bullet moving a couple thousand fps, and pushed by a couple thousand psi., gasses burning at around 2000 degrees won't do?
Maybe we shouldn't be firing the rifles at all. That's the sure way to prevent wear on the barrel...
Other than not shaving on the crown with a rod of equal or greater hardness than the barrel, or using a rusty bent Comblock SKS cleaning rod with a hammer, just what is with this obsession?
geekWithA.45
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Otis kits work well.
Wayne02
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Ok, I give up, why do you use a bore snake on a "clean" barrel? To apply lubricant/protectant????
308win
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I don't know what is tactical about mine but I use it on everything from .22 to 12ga. Does a good job when I can't use a rod.
CountGlockula
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I have the Otis kit for handgun cleaning and love it. It comes in a circular zipper pouch. Very compact and have no complaints...other than running out of cleaning solvent.
bogie
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On a hunting trip, if you're shooting a rifle enough to get it dirty enough to warrant a cleaning, that's either one heckuva hunting trip, or you're shooting prairie dogs... And you've got a vehicle handy.
Personally I fail to see what all the fuss is about. I was given one of the ballyhooed universal kits a few years ago but it gathers dust. Didn't care for the Chinese puzzle patch folding process and all the odds and ends. An M16 cleaning kit (use a bore guide or your fingers) isn't all that much weight or bulk. Boonie Packer makes a similar coated cable set up for a fraction of the price; and for a simple pull-through a piece of .060 weed whacker line with a knot on the end will pull a wet or dry patch through.
Sort of like what Jeff Cooper said about Pachmayr rubber handgun stocks; he hated them but wished he had the franchise.
Sort of like what Jeff Cooper said about Pachmayr rubber handgun stocks; he hated them but wished he had the franchise.
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