We are NOT defeated unless we choose to be

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I have seen a lot of defeatist attitudes in the aftermath of the VA Tech shooting.

Many feel that the tide of public opinion will push for draconian gun control legislation. Furthermore, they believe that there is nothing we can do about it—and that attempting to fight more legislation would be an exercise in futility.

If we have that attitude, we are already defeated. Moreover, we have failed our country by allowing our legislators to govern emotionally, reactionary, and from a lack of long-term perspective. We allow “feel-good” legislation to overcome reasonable thought.

How do we combat this?

There are many things we can do—things that we are not effectively doing now.


1. We MUST define the issue.

Whoever defines an issue owns it. Currently, we are allowing the anti-gun persons to define this issue. They are blaming guns and gun owners for this tragedy. We MUST make a vocal statement that restrictive legislation of self-defense, ineffective safety protocols, etc. contributed more to this event than any gun ownership.



2. We MUST develop canned, to-the-point, statements to answer anti-gun arguments.


“When law-abiding people are unable to take measures to insure their safety, tragedies happen.”

“No gun zones are calling cards for those that wish to do violence against helpless victims.”

“In perspective, FAR more people are SAVED through firearms ownership than died in this tragedy ever year.”

“Terrible tragedies happen, but they are not frequent enough to justify making everyone helpless based on a mentally and emotionally unstable person.”

“How can you justify draconian penalization of MILLIONS of Americans based on the actions of few?”

“Automobiles, drugs, alcohol, accidents, STILL kill more persons than a firearm ever did. They are under attack due to media sensationalism and fear-mongering”

“The media only tells the negative stories. They tell you that ratings rise when there is blood in the streets. Do you really think they will spend the same time reporting the positives of gun ownership?”


3. We MUST point to the Second Amendment and defend it.

An act of Congress would be necessary to alter it, and it would still require ratification by two-thirds of the states. An amendment would be next to impossible—and that is our strength.


4. We MUST write to the major news outlets to insure they give the fair story.

Those that I would target are Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and NBC. We must post on various forums any outrageous statements. When you DO post, please take the time to put in a web link, a response link, and the e-mail of the person who stated it (if possible), and his boss (if possible)

5. We MUST coordinate pro-gun forums.

I would like to see the Legislative Action sections of the top gun forums link to a gun-legislation site.

We need to see Thehighroad.org, AR-15.com, AK-files.com, Gunsnet, Glocktalk, etc. link over to a Legislation and Activism site. Only through our numbers and unity can we prevent the emotional reactions from happening.

6. We must ALL write to our Representative, Both our Senators, Your state Governor, and President Bush.


7. We MUST highlight the nature of the shooter.

Blame the shooter, not the tool.


8. We MUST go on the offensive.

While the Anti-gun persons are screaming for legislation, we must scream louder. We MUST NOT operate from a reactionary position. We MUST be affirmative. Whenever someone makes a statement, and it is countered, people tend to remember the STATEMENT, but not the COUNTER-STATEMENT. We must have an affirmative course of action where the anti-gun groups are required to counter US.

Our statement should be one of personal empowerment, and the individual’s need to be able to prevent such tragedies from reoccurring. We must state that this occurred BECAUSE of gun control, not in spite of it.




I will add to this as I can.



John
 
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Excellent post!

We can change this.

Every honest and valid statistic and piece of evidence proves that gun control does not work.
 
Yeah, ummm everything will be just fine. Rah Rah. Go Team!

Then again I think not planning for the worst is absolute foolishness. We don't plan to fail... we fail to plan...
 
Amen, JWarren. While I have been actively working again 1022 and the like, I refuse to live in fear of a "the ban".

It amazes me how many people will post in one thread asking why these students didn't resist and then turn around in the next thread and throw their hands up saying there is nothing they we can do to prevent a ban now.

Go ahead and stock up on magazines, ammo, and bury them in your yard. Go ahead and talk in whispered voices about how you've outsmarted the gun-grabbers because you've burried your guns where no one can get to it. That gets us nowhere.

Some of us still believe in the power of the people to mobilize and be heard. While it may not fuel your fantasies of saving America like hoarding lower receivers does, the real battle is fought with words on the field of public opinion. If we lose there, it won't matter what you have stashed away.

It's easy to run up your credit card buying things, actually going out and talking to people, writing letters, and getting involved is much more difficult and time-consuming.

All is not lost, unless you let it be.

Put down the credit card and the shovel. Now is the time to start making calls, writing letters and emails, and talking to people about what RKBA means.
 
Guys, it's NOT ready for prime time, and I'm still on the learning curve, and I'm _really_ trying to not cough up a lung (was working on pneumonia all during four cold and wet days at Knob Creek), but my site is semi-there...

We need to coordinate a message. And get it out. By the THOUSANDS.

And it has to be simple, focused, and based on common sense.

"Why weren't those poor students able to do something?"
 
Yeah, ummm everything will be just fine. Rah Rah. Go Team!

I am not sure I understand your meaning....

I'm not trying to be a cheerleader. I am trying to give a plan of action. I am not saying there isn't a threat-- there is. I am saying that wallowing is self-pity isn't going to be much of a defense. Having a communications plan is helpful. A lot of people may not know where to start, and hopefully I've given some ideas.


For what it is worth, I have my Masters in Public Relations with an emphasis in Crisis Management. I do understand the tools of communicative manipulation that our enemies are using. I try to find ways to use those tools against them as they use them against us.

The Antis don't care about truth. They care about whatever message promotes their agenda. That is how a war of public opinion is fought. They are very effective because they are not constrainted by truth or decency-- and we, in general, do operate within those constraints.

I am not suggesting lying. I am saying that HOW a message is constructed matters often more than the message. Forcing the antis to respond to OUR affirmative acitons is a vialble and proven public relations tactic. Why be negative if someone IS trying to offer something?



John
 
A bright spot - we're still well in the lead over at the ABC News poll:

Do you think this incident is a reason to pass stricter gun control legislation?

No. Violent shootings are isolated incidents and it's irresponsible to link them to gun control - 47,682

Yes. This shows the violence that can occur when someone has access to handguns - 19,012

I'm not sure. I need more information - 1,442

Total Vote: 68,136
 
My message is I see a pattern here. I do not think that outcome will be favorable. Ignore it if you will. In six months time we will see who is right.
 
My message is I see a pattern here. I do not think that outcome will be favorable. Ignore it if you will. In six months time we will see who is right.


I don't think anyone is ignoring anything. We are just not willing to "go gently into that night."


Preparing for the future exists on many levels. One of them is trying to shape it.


John
 
True - we've got thousands of folks just on this one forum.

We've got millions in the NRA. We've got a hundred million gun owners in the country.

And we can get maybe a half-dozen folks moving in the same direction for a few seconds before they start arguing amongst themselves.

Right now we need to be hammer the media - but we also need to be subtle. We have to LEAD them into thinking. "Why weren't the students able to defend themselves? Why couldn't the people with gun permits be on campus?"

They'll provide the answers.
 
What Can We Do?

I was thinking of starting a similar thread in the wake of this shooting. As a gun owner and a law abiding citizen it truly angers me. I do fear for my rights I fear the Politician's legislature in response to the shooting.
I have many questions in my mind of how and why this happened, I even question my own standing on Gun Control. The fact remains that criminals will not obey laws and Gun Control Laws DO NOT WORK.

What can we do?
1st-Join the NRA and challenge/persuade your friends and family to join. There is strength in numbers and the NRA is and will always be a no compromise organization. Encourage others to join the NRA we need all Gun owners, not just rifle owners.

2nd-Educate yourself and then others. We need to know the facts, there is quite a bit of information to help us understand the benefits of ownership, Concealed Carry, ect. I recommend "More Guns, Less Crime" by John Lott Jr., there are also many other good books and websites with helpful information, but make sure when we quote facts that they are correct and are documented. Don't be like the Gun Control advocates who make up facts or skew statistic in their favor. We don't need to skew the statistics because we are right.

3rd-Obey the Laws. The average Gun owner does obey the law, we need not give the An-ti's "ammunition" for their cause. Hunt ethically, shoot ethically be courteous to others and respect their rights and opinions. This past weekend I returned to my home town, and when to the area where I grew up shooting, the garbage left by shooters was appalling. This is not being responsible and most definitely puts a negative light on shooters in general.

4th-Be Safe and Responsible! We have a great responsibility as gun owners, we must teach children and those who are not familiar with guns safety and responsibility. Use safes, locks ect. when appropriate.

I am sure that there are more points that should be address so please add if I missed any. We can not sit back and think the 2nd Amendment will protect our rights, we all must be proactive and responsible.

Blake
 
Mr. Warren is right.

Ladies and gentlemen, this may just be it. The decisive battle in the struggle for the right to arms in the United States may be upon us. We didn’t choose this or want it, but it sure looks like it’s coming.

We must stand and fight … in the media, in the political arena, and in the streets if need be. We must stand and fight or face assured defeat.

We must also set aside our differences. We must forget about religion. We must forget about immigration. We must forget about sexuality. We must forget about politics. We must stand united, or we will fail.

~G. Fink
 
I have been thinking this since I first heard of the shooting.

I want to SCREAM at legislatures for not allowing ADULTS to practice their rights simply because they are at a place of learning.

We need to be on the offensive, in their faces, fingers pointing. YOU allowed this to happen yet again by disarming the innocent. The blood is on YOUR hands.

The anti's are already out spitting their venom (see the Brady release) and the pro-gun groups so far are making no comments. I'm disgusted. The NRA should have been throwing Virginia's House Bill 1572 out in the open immediately.
 
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
But I am going to act like it is and see what the future brings.

And in what I suppose should fall into the category of comic relief...
Maybe we should focus on making California a shall issue state.

If we can do that then we can do anything!
 
We do need to take the fight to them, thats the only way we are going to gain any ground. We will get no were if all we do is stay on the defense, we need to be on the offensive!
 
TrybalRage:
I have, and continue to, placed some blame for this on gun-control advocates.

But in truth we are all to blame for allowing our rights to be eroded.
 
It is also very important to remember that you can voice your opinion around the water cooler as well.

Two guys at my office were discussing the VT tragedy this morning and using the opportunity to talk about gun control. So I also threw in my $.02 on the subject as well. Perhaps I'm naive, but it seemed as though they actually listened and pondered some of the points I was making.

Take every opportunity you have to talk to folks about our RKBA!

It's not just about writing government, although that is an important aspect. It all begins with your neighbor, your brother, your sister, your preacher, your doctor, etc.
 
Chad,

Don't blame me, I'm only 26 - this place sucked before I got here :D
Well, I'm 53 and I could probably make the same claim. :neener:

The trick is to make it so the next generation can't say it!
 
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