The Nip:
I'm now sure how/why you've pieced together this fantasy, but what in the world makes you think I HATE anyone? On the contrary...
Uh, Thumper got to you first, but that "primate... banana tree... eating bugs" reference sure does sound suspect.
Nevermind. Obviously, you haven't spent much time here. That sort of behavior is not only common, but accepted here...though only to punish "outsiders" when they start mouthing off for no reason. It's not something I'm proud of stating, but that's just how things are. What can I say?
We have such behavior on the mainland as well. I've seen it in Brooklyn, West Texas, South Central Los Angeles, what have you. It's called a "riot" or "mob attack." And the people who perpetrate such actions are called "thugs" and "criminals." I have spent much time in Hawaii, and I daresay that my friends there would be most displeased if I were to suggest that all, or even most, Hawaiians engage in such thuggish behavior. But then again, my Hawaiian friends are educated, rational people, not the kind who resort to violence just because a visitor expresses his dislike of something Hawaiian (most would just shrug and probably say something like "I am happy here. You can leave if you are unhappy here").
Perhaps your observances of such behavior as "routine" has more to do with where you live and whom you associate with than with Hawaii itself.
You've observed wrong, yet again. Only Hawaiian "blooded" locals identify themselves as Hawaiian. The rest of us (the vast majority of the state) might identify ourselves as "hawaii boys" (again, go ask your local buddies how this works), but as far as ethnicity, identify first with our actual ethnic backgrounds.
Actually, I did not "observed wrong." I observed what I observed. You can certainly argue that what I experienced is atypical of Hawaiians, but that'd be too logical for you.
When I said that Hawaiians identify themselves as Hawaiian first something else second, I meant "Hawaii" as in the state, not Hawaiian "blood" as you call it. But it's nice to know that you distort what I say to suit whatever you feel like saying.
Bahadur, in the short time I've been on this board I've noticed that the members here are generally much more educated, articulate and well-spoken than those on, say...GlockTalk. I won't question your stance on most issues because you're obviously much more capable than myself in addressing those matters.
You mean like a little fact of geography/biology like the fact that banana trees don't grow in Korea? Me thinks you need some travelling to countries you purport to know.
I don't know whether you've ever been to Taiwan or South Korea, but we don't really provide any aid to those countries anymore. They are both quite prosperous and technologically well-developed. I know it might be shocking for you, but South Korea actually has the highest broadband Internet usage per capita, not to mention one of the higest digital cellphone usage rates per capita in the world. If anything, these countries possess much better developed infrastructre technologically than, say, Hawaii does. Perhaps you should go climb banana trees and eat bugs.
You know what else? God knows I like Hawaii very much, but the work pace there drives me up the wall. I wouldn't call it that, but some people do call it "laziness." If it weren't for the US government and tourism, where would Hawaii be today? A bunch of failing plantations, that what.
If you have ever been to Taiwan or Korea, you'd know that, generally, Taiwanese and Koreans are exceptionally industrial, hard-working people. During the 1980s, these countries boasted perhaps the highest number of work hours per week (even higher than Japan). There was a joke that reflected this fact well: what do Korean workers think of the Japanese workers? Answer: very good workers, but a little lazy. Of course, this is only funny to us Westerners who think that the Japanese work ungodly high number of hours.
Quite presumptuous of you, isn't that? My "beloved Japanese"? You may not realize it, but that statement reeks of the 1940's stereotype that "all japs stick other japs."
Not at all. You may think that Thumper and I are brainless morons with no memory, but you see, we do have it. We remember full well that you wanted the US to "allow" Japan to exterminate Korea and Taiwan during WWII in another thread. You have demonstrated, time and again, that you view the Japanese to be superior human beings to, say, Taiwanese, Chinese and Koreans. That's ignorant ethnic prejudice, last time I checked. Stop inverting and stop accusing Thumper of racism when it is you who need some history, biology, geography, anthropology (among others) lessons.
For the record, I could care less about Japanese issues, and I'm certainly not going to stick up for them. Fact is, Japan is beginning to disgust me as of late.
I see, you have an "evolving" view of Japan that has changed in the last few days.
To be fair, however, I will venture a guess that the money the USA spent on rebuilding Japan after WWII doesn't come anywhere NEAR the amount we've spent on worthless 3rd-world countries (who later wage holy wars on us, or kill our economy with illegal immigrants) in the past ten years.
Well, it's hard to argue with this since your definition of "third-world" is very broad and include some of the richest countries in the world. Suffice to say, in today terms, the amount of money we spent on the reconstruction of Japan and Europe was massive.
Next time, try some education rather than "just a guess" based on bizzarre racial prejudices and a complete absence of knowledge in basic geography.
