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LAW OF THE LAND
Multiple Miranda
Judge's strange 'split' decision means extra warnings for other personalities

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Posted: January 9, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Joe Kovacs
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com


"You have the right to remain silent ... and so do you, and you, and you."

That's what police could be reciting from now on in the wake of a unique court ruling from the same Montana county that dealt with Unabomber Ted Kaczynski.

A judge there has decided that once is not enough when it comes to Miranda warnings for criminal suspects who have multiple personalities.

"That's absurd!" Richard Ackerman of the United States Justice Foundation told WorldNetDaily. "The judiciary that issued this ruling is as crazy as the person who proceeded with the claim in the first place."

The decision comes in the case of Tessa Haley, a Helena woman accused of stabbing her longtime roommate last year.

At the time of her arrest, Haley reportedly made several statements implicating herself, but District Judge Thomas Honzel tossed them out, saying the damaging remarks presumably had been made by Haley's alternate personality, who had not been given an additional advisement of her rights.

"If you use that as a precedent," Ackerman said, "then anyone with a remote history of mental illness will use it to avoid criminal liability. It's just crazy! Just crazy!"

Since 1966, police nationwide have been reading criminal suspects what is known as a Miranda warning, advising them of their rights before questioning. While having slight variations among law-enforcement agencies, a typical version includes:


You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to be speak to an attorney, and to have an attorney present during any questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be provided for you at government expense.
In the Montana case, as reported by the Helena Independent Record, court documents reveal a bizarre scenario that unfolded in the early evening of Sept 2.

Police first got a call from a woman calling herself "Martha," who claimed she had just stabbed another woman.

Upon arrival to the scene, officers found Haley, 58, working on her home computer. She was wearing a surgical mask and her hands were stained with blood.

She explained the mask was a guard against germs, but denied knowledge of the emergency call, or of any person known as Martha.

Meanwhile, a local hospital phoned authorities to say it was treating a woman suffering a two-inch stab wound and that the victim had positively identified Haley as her assailant.

Police handcuffed Haley, read her the Miranda warning, and commenced a search of the residence with the woman's permission.

When officers asked if she'd take a breath test for drug or alcohol consumption, Haley said she should probably consult an attorney. So, investigators halted their questioning.

According to police reports, a change in Haley's personality was then noticed by an officer who says Haley began growling, demanding to know what was happening.

When asked if she knew the victim, the woman – now identifying herself as "Martha" – said, "I stabbed her."

Before transporting Haley to jail, police brought her to St. Peter's Hospital to check her mental status. It was there, according to court records, that Haley recounted more events, including an admission she couldn't consummate the killing since the victim had escaped.

Public Defender Randi Hood argued that none of the remarks made by "Martha" should be admissible, as Haley had invoked her right to legal counsel.

"It is inconceivable that one personality could relinquish the right to have an attorney present before questioning to the detriment of other personalities," she wrote.

Hood also argued to strike similar statements made at the hospital, in spite of objections by prosecutors, who said both Haley and her alter ego were never forced by police to disclose anything.

Lewis and Clark County Attorney Leo Gallagher said Haley's admissions had been spontaneous, as officers had stopped their interrogation and were looking out for the suspect's well-being during the hospital run.

In the end, Judge Honzel decided the incriminating statements both at home and the hospital should be suppressed.

Nonetheless, prosecutors don't appear devastated by the ruling.

"I can understand why the judge made his decision, and we'll try to work around it and get some better evidence," Gallagher told the Independent Record.

After WorldNetDaily informed Ackerman of the case specifics, the California-based USJF attorney provided a more in-depth reaction.

"First, it is not the job of an arresting officer to diagnose a suspect for possible and existent mental disorders," Ackerman said.

"Second, even if it were their duty, they have no duty to determine the number of possible 'personalities' that they are about to arrest. A rational approach to Miranda suggests that only one 'person' is being arrested. If, in fact, the person is mentally ill, they have no concerns to begin with, since insanity is a complete defense to an intentional crime. What's the point in giving Miranda advisements if there is no assurance that a 'personality' hears it at all?

"This is just one more example of judicially created law resulting in absurd results. Miranda is nowhere in the Constitution, and the Constitution does not create a separate class of rights for each claimed personality of a homicide suspect.

"This ruling places an incredibly onerous burden on an arresting officer, and I am shocked that the county attorney has thrown up the white flag on this one. Be assured that California's 'criminally insane' will be the first to adopt a new family of personalities and hire a 'dream team' to bring an ignorant face to each one."

The trial for Haley – and "Martha" – is slated to begin Jan. 21 on a charge of attempted homicide, punishable by up to life in prison and a $50,000 fine. Bail has been set at $100,000.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30396
 
Revised Miranda...

(no psych needed to administer)

1) Everyone has a right to remain silent.
2) Anything anyone says may be used against everybody in court.
3) Everybody has a right to be represented by an attorney, albeit the same individual attorney or attorney(s) from the same legal office, before and during any questioning.
4) If you guys can't afford an attorney or attorney(s) from the same legal office, one will be appointed for you guys free of charge, before any questioning, if any of you guys want.
5) Does everybody understand these rights and would anybody like to talk to us now?

OK all you legal beagles, we know about "conflict" of interest when different individuals are represented by the same attorney or attorneys from the same office, but I think neither the bar nor the court will object.

Now, the problem is if one is found guilty and the others are innocent. That's something the court will have to figure out.
 
It sounds like a plot for a bad "B" movie. You just can't make this stuff up. Whatever happened to common sense?

If she is insane then whay difference will the Miranda make. Hell, in New York state mental patients can vote. Kruschev was right. We are going to destroy ourselves. We are in the process now!

:rolleyes:
 
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