Were M60 tanks...
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Sistema1927
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The M60 carried a 105mm gun.
"BMP, 800 yards, HEAT"; "Up"; "On the way!"
"BMP, 800 yards, HEAT"; "Up"; "On the way!"
Preacherman
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Not to hijack my own thread, but on a related note, has anyone seen these die-cast tanks?
They're pretty neat; I've just begun to collect them.
They're pretty neat; I've just begun to collect them.
Gunsnrovers
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The Israeli's took the M60 to the next level with their Magach series and the Sabra.
The Sabra sports a redesigned turret and 120mm main gun. At one point, I believe this was looked at by Turkey, but I don't know if the deal ever went through.
The Sabra sports a redesigned turret and 120mm main gun. At one point, I believe this was looked at by Turkey, but I don't know if the deal ever went through.
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Justin
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Yep. Fun fact: if you go to the Patton Museum at Ft. Knox, the M1 Abrams they have on display out front is an example of the early model, and still includes the 105 mm gun.
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I don't think we ever upgraded our own M60s to have the 120mm gun. We switched over to the M1 Abrams for that cannon.
BTW, you gotta love some of these small towns. They're National Guard outfit is a tank unit and they have a few tanks parked outside their armory. Too bad they don't hold open house and let the kiddies play on them. I'd go right now.
Hey MondoComputerman - Is that the bow of the Battleship Alabama in the background?
BTW, you gotta love some of these small towns. They're National Guard outfit is a tank unit and they have a few tanks parked outside their armory. Too bad they don't hold open house and let the kiddies play on them. I'd go right now.
Hey MondoComputerman - Is that the bow of the Battleship Alabama in the background?
heypete
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Remember: If you hear "oh, ????!" after "on the way!", you're probably not going to be promoted anytime soon...
Commissar Gribb
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what kind of tank is ideal in a SHTF scenario? What ammo is most available in surplus? Gas mileage? reliablility?
KriegHund
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Rofl ^^^^^
Amazing how we leaped form the m-60 to the abrams
Amazing how we leaped form the m-60 to the abrams
Silent-Snail
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We have one of those sitting outside the Sheriff(SP?) Station. We also have a Sabre Jet and a 3" naval gun from the Spanish American War.
what kind of tank is ideal in a SHTF scenario? What ammo is most available in surplus? Gas mileage? reliablility?
Bwahahahahaha
T-72 running on biodiesel ?
You'd never get good reliability out of anything with treads, armor needs a LOT of support in the field as a general rule, and is mostly used for...
(wait for it)
Shooting the hell out of the other guys armor units.
Now if you really, realllllly wanted some SHTF "armor" get something with an air-cooled diesel (run on biodiesel), solid tires, and enough armor to stand off small arms.
Something like, sayyy... this.
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/armored_cars/sdKfz234.html
Ask a silly question...
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Bwahahahahaha
T-72 running on biodiesel ?
You'd never get good reliability out of anything with treads, armor needs a LOT of support in the field as a general rule, and is mostly used for...
(wait for it)
Shooting the hell out of the other guys armor units.
Now if you really, realllllly wanted some SHTF "armor" get something with an air-cooled diesel (run on biodiesel), solid tires, and enough armor to stand off small arms.
Something like, sayyy... this.
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/armored_cars/sdKfz234.html
Ask a silly question...
-K
If the gummint came to take your guns in a M-60, would you rather have a 1911 or a Glock?
The M-60 had that British 105mm which is now all over the world. I think the Chinese got it from the Israelis who got in from us who got in from the Brits.
I just finished a book about the Yom Kippur war - very interesting. It was really touch and go for the Israelis as they overestimated the utility of tanks vs. Egyptian infantry loaded with AT weapons.
The M-60 had that British 105mm which is now all over the world. I think the Chinese got it from the Israelis who got in from us who got in from the Brits.
I just finished a book about the Yom Kippur war - very interesting. It was really touch and go for the Israelis as they overestimated the utility of tanks vs. Egyptian infantry loaded with AT weapons.
red_devil1469
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If you are near VA and want to see some armor go here.
http://www.aaftankmuseum.com/
http://www.aaftankmuseum.com/
Not really. The M60 was effectively a stop gap tank, using updated fire controls and armament but still based on a design that had its origins in the heavy tank of WWII, beginning with the M26 Pershing. The Abrams was the next step, but was long overdue.
mondocomputerman
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captain obvious
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IIRC, the M68 105mm Rifled Gun (US version of the UK L7) was a quick replacement for the 152mm Shelagh gun/missile combination (used on the M60A2, I think) - that gun proved to be more trouble than it was worth, and despite that was still used on the Sheridan.
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benEzra
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Oh, no. I can see it now.
"What is the best load for hunting APC's?"
"My third cousin's uncle's brother in Iraq said M1A2's jam if you don't clean them every 2 hours, but he saw a T-90 that was buried in quicksand for five years, and it started right up"
"The 120mm is a poodle shooter, get a 125mm"
"125mm is inaccurate eastern-bloc crap, get a 120mm"
"Is Rheinmetall POS?"
"HELP--120mm double-feeding, suggestions?"
"Which MBT best for defense against zombie armored cav?"
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