"We're not going to roll over," Chicago Mayor Richard Daley said.

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I don't see Chicago or DC police busting down doors and raiding houses looking for 'illegal' pistols in otherwise law abiding people's houses....CRAZY
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You would VERY incorrect in that assumption. Right before Heller was to go to oral arguments, Fenty and Lanier in DC knew the descision was going against them and they attempted to initiate this friendly little police action.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/12/AR2008031202717.html

Imagine hundreds of uniform police offices roving around knocking on every door in a section of DC "asking" to search the premisis. This was nothing more than thinly veiled police intimidation brought on by a group of politicians who felt their control over the citizens was being threatened.

A few people (GOA and NRA, the ACLU and NAACP were no where to be found on this) got all pissed off about it for some reason and for weeks Fenty and Lanier were on TV every single night trying to say "how this was all about Safe Homes and their actions were being mis-represented".

When those lies didn't fly they canceled the "door to door searching police" and said people could just call the police and the police would come search their house.... I wonder how many calls they got?

Fenty is no where near as arrogant and bold as Daley. Keep that in mind.
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Australian Shooter:
It's often claimed that in Chicago not only do the dead vote, they continue to draw public service salaries.
Mayor Daley's father was the Mayor in 1968 when the police rioted against demonstrators (not the other way around as is normal) while the democratic national convention selected a presidential candidate who hadn't one any primary elections but was acceptable to the party bosses.
Mayor Daley learned how to govern from his father. IIRC 2 out the last 4 Governors of the state of Illinois were jailed for corruption and a third is on trial for it. Chicago lacks a history of good governance. The original handgun ban was pushed through by a councilman who happened to be a relative of the local mafia boss. Police who investigate corruption get reassigned.
 
What are the possible actions if Daley blatantly defies the SCOTUS, as he seems want to do? By actions I mean , by the SCOTUS, USDJ,or any other agency.
 
First we will have to wait and see exactly what the decision says.

Next we will have to see what they do about it in Chicago.

Last but not least, if they try to tie up gun rights in red tape, they - like the government in Washington DC - will soon be facing more lawsuits.

If (and only "if") the decision goes our way, a long fight will lay ahead. But from the start they will be on a downhill slope.
 
Doesn't matter. The Bamster's Cheif of Staff wants to be the next Mayor of Chicago, and there's no reason in the world to think he won't be.
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The only question is whether Obama will use Stalinist methods to clear his path, ie. a politically motivated prosecution of Daley for corruption. That would be eerily reminiscent of Stalin's removal (and killing) of those like Pyatakov for "injustices" to party members.

As for Emmanuel, I'm sure he's 120% anti-gun, but nowhere NEAR as stupid as Daley. Were we faced with an INTELLIGENT anti-gunner in McDonald, the fight would be 1,000% harder. Instead, the city's legal strategy appears, like Stalin's strategy at the start of the war, chaotic, horribly inept, and utterly disconnected from the reality on the ground. Lucky us.
 
Chicago's Mayor Daley on his armed bodyguards:
"They have them for, you know -- the city clerk has one, a number. The city treasurer has one, a couple. ... They deal with a lot of issues dealing with their safety and their families. So, it's always a concern," Daley said.
 
Daley said he's encouraged by what has happened in Washington, D.C., where relatively few guns have been registered since the ban was lifted and new

Then there are the gun shops. Though they are legal now in D.C., none have opened, in large part because the city implemented regulations both on store owners and buyers.

In Chicago, one owner of a suburban gun store said the city would hit anyone who tried to set up shop in the city with a flood of regulations and mountains of paperwork.

"It would be a legal nightmare," said Noel Incavo, of Midwest Sporting Goods.

There's also the possibility the city won't bother with all that.

"We could seek to draft an ordinance that would ban gun shops in the city of Chicago," Mara Georges, Chicago's corporation counsel, said.
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Totally useless, ineffective, spiteful gesture.

DC's blockade of gun stores works only because of existing federal law that prohibits cross border sales of handguns unless the firearm is shipped to an FFL
in the buyers state of residence (proposed legislation stagnating in Congress would correct this for DC residents).

Seeing that there is only one FFL in DC willing to handle transfers (at an exhorbitant price), of course handgun sales are going to be on the low end.

Not so the situation in ****cago as any one of his Lordships serfs will still be able to purchase a handgun anywhere else in IL.

Of course the predictable response from Daley will be to conduct sting operations on the stores, having his boot-licking servants harrass the shop owners, attempt to pass legislation that would prohibit Chicagoians purchasing firearms from outside city limits, etc.
 
Just because the same person has held office for forever and a day does not mean we cannot get rid of him in the next election.
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I live in the Chicago area, so allow me to educate you: Chicago does not have elections, as such. Chicago has a farce where some people vote, but the voter fraud is so rampant that the Democrat party can just pick who the next major is going to be. We have people in this city who have faithfully voted in every single election since 1900.
 
I'm personally convinced that the only way you're going to get an honest election in Chicago is right after the President sends in the Marines.

That being said, there is considerable precedent for using force to suppress rebellion.
 
Actually, from a Second Amendment perspective, guys like Daley and Fenty are great for us. The only problem with Fenty is he hasn't been as obstinate and hardheaded as he first promised and keeps compromising once the lawyers clue him in. We need someone on the other side who will continue to fight battles when we choose them and where we choose them - and Daley is a pretty good character for that.

If they want to nitpick Supreme Court decisions, then by all means, let's see how that plays at the high court.
 
What is the status on the DC follow up case to loosen the new restrictions? I don't even know the name of it or I'd look it up. I know district judge upheld the law. Where is it now?
 
Bart wrote:
Actually, from a Second Amendment perspective, guys like Daley and Fenty are great for us
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Agreed. The proclamations from Daley and Chicago that they "will not roll over" in an attempt to make it as difficult as possible for persons to own firearms is likely to backfire. Under intermediate scrutiny likely to be applied to any subsequent legislation enacted by Chicago, one of the criteria employed is to determine whether the legislative scheme was devised so as to deprive the exercise of the right. If the court determines that is the intent, the analysis stops right there and Chicago and Daley gets thrown out of court.

I would wager the Chicago City Attorney wishes Daley would shut up, LOL.”
 
What the Court needs to do is send Federals to pick up the police chief and mayor of DC for their hard headed footdragging on this case and then send a letter to Mayor Daly telling him any attempt by him or his goverment to void , delay and stop the ruling when it comes down will be deemed as Contempt of Court and that he will be arrested and thrown in a Fed Pen waiting on the Court to try his case.

A nice long stay in the Fed for these mayors would give them an attidude adjustment.
 
Bushmaster said...''Don't be so hard on Daly
The strict gun laws in Chicago have abolished all violent crime in the Windy City and Daly does not want it turn into a violent place like Switzerland or Vermont...''

...and now owes me a new key board! I blew coffee out of my nose!
 
I would wager the Chicago City Attorney wishes Daley would shut up, LOL.”
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You'd lose that wager. Mara Georges is as big an ignoramus as Daley.

Competence is threatening to Daley and he works hard to ensure that that none of his lackeys displays any.
 
Suddenly, California doesn't look so bad.

(I'm not advocating anything about CA)
 
Suddenly, California doesn't look so bad.

(I'm not advocating anything about CA)
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Ill take IL over CA anyday. In IL I can buy as many guns as I want, as often as I want. I can have a non-nuetered AR15, and I can have as many rounds in a mag as I want.
 
Daley counters such talk by pointing to other cases, including one in which a suburban Chicago man shot and killed a neighbor because the neighbor's dog urinated on his lawn, as examples of the dangers of handguns in the home.

"We just had two women playing cards and one pulled a gun and (fatally) shot the other one," he said, referring to an incident this month on the city's South Side.
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As if the guns are to blame. Sounds to me like these were just unstable people. If it wouldn't have been a gun, it would have been a knife, should we ban silverware?? You can't get rid people like this, what you can do is arm the innocent in an attempt to give them a chance.
 
As if the guns are to blame. Sounds to me like these were just unstable people. If it wouldn't have been a gun, it would have been a knife, should we ban silverware?? You can't get rid people like this, what you can do is arm the innocent in an attempt to give them a chance.
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Any argument Daley can use citing citizens who misused guns could even more aptly used to disarm the Chicago Police Department based on their history with firearms.
 
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