Westboro Baptist slime in Salem NH for soldier funeral...go get'em

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Aren't funerals private events?

Not on public land. A Federal cemetary, or one in any part supported by the State, allows "peaceful assembly" ANYWHERE, including right on top of the "event."

No touching = legal. :uhoh:

Trying to move the protesters means you have committed a crime.

And, then, they can pay $$$ for their next "event." :banghead:

Democracy means "let them protest," and IGNORE THEM. :p
 
It's already been pointed out that the Phelpsies aren't peaceful. Can I hold massive bondage orgies in public cemeteries, as long as I wrap myself in the flag of dissent? Can I butcher livestock there?

If I move the protestors, get sued and have to pay them money, it is the system that is at fault, and not I.
 
Ezekial

From what I can gather, they generally picket the churches, not the cemetaries.

I am also not sure that anyone has the right to demonstrate wherever they please. Here in Philadelphia, where your Constitution was written, I'm pretty sure you need a permit to demonstrate. Such was the case when the Republicans held their national convention here, anyway. They were demonstrating on Independance Mall, which is a National Park (Federal Land). This is not to say that people don't occasionally stage impromptu demonstrations, without a permit. That happens too, sometimes.
 
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Hey, we can protest them back can't we?
 
I get the impression that they ANNOUNCE they are going to picket for the shock effect, and don't always show up to actually do it.

They run a law firm that apparently funds most of their activities. See http://www.phelpschartered.com/home.htm . (notice that their Latin is so bad they mistranslated their family crest. Should be "truth without fear". Latin's a little too much for the inbred.) I don't know who the clients are, but any business that uses their services could probably be persuaded to go elsewhere.

My favorite picture of Fred:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=37870&d=1143923954
 
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Peaceful Assembly

Just another thought. In these instances, the loved ones of the deceased are peacefully assembled to conduct a funeral. The Westies are assembled, non- peacefully, to disrupt that funeral, and create as much disturbance as they can.

So, who is violating who's rights here?
 
Religious wackjobs make me angry, really angry :fire:.

The right side of me says to do anything possible to make sure these creeps dont get anywhere near the funeral. The ACLU side of me says "well, it is their first amendmant right". I do agree with the first amendmant, but religious wackjobs protesting the death of an Iraqi soldier crosses the line.

Everybody bring Kevlars, military clothes, paintball guns, and plenty of paintballs :p.


Hey, we can protest them back can't we?

YES!! Finally a good idea thats effective, but legal. Thanks.
 
They should stay in Kansas with their apologist Ezekiel .

They should also rot in hell the bastards.
 
Well we sure like to bicker about free speech, hey? I will say one thing here.
In my fathers and grandfathers time, these scum would have had the snot beat out of them This is not about politics, or religion or free speech. This is just plain and simple Bad Manners.
 
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I don't know why so many here get their panties in a bunch over Fred Phelps. Phelps is just the next logical step of Falwell, Dobeson and the rest of the religious right.

Remember after 9/11 when Jerry and company told us the attack was from Gays and abortionists? Why is Phelps any crazier than that?

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They came to Chattanooga to protest a fallen soldier's funeral who lived just up the road in Cleveland TN 20 min. away, word got out on the radio and tv and so many people showed up to line the streets in Cleveland they had no chance to get close, then as the procession made it's way down the interstate to Chattanoga people were on the overpasses displaying banners in support of the family, when the procession got to the national cemetary in downtown Chattanooga the protesters were nowhere in sight, come to find out the members of westboro got to the airport and the taxis and buses etc. either didn't stop for them or just plain refused to pick them up. kinda held a little protest of their own!:D
 
You can speak all you want. If you get your teeth kicked out maybe you should listen to what you are saying.
 
I just wish they would drop the Baptist part of their name. They are not related to my Religious affiliation that stresses Christ-like love.

Send 'em home.
 
It's a real shame when the antis use emotion to argue against the Bill of Rights.

"This is not about politics, or religion or the right to keep and bear arms. This is just plain and simple Protecting the Children."

I really feel for the families of the deceased soldiers and admire the motorcycle riders who block these idiotic and cruel "protests". Not surprising these fools were easy to outsmart.
 
MO you beat me to it, but that's one funny clip! There's no reasoning with these knuckleheads, so you might as well make fun of them. I love the way he runs & hides behind his loudmouth daughter/niece (hard to tell with all the inbreeding).

As I get older, I've learned that you can't trust anyone who claims they have a direct connection to THE TRUTH, whether it involves religion, UFOs, or multilevel marketing.
 
I don't support the Iraq war, but with very few exceptions, our servicemen are doing their jobs with honor. If the Westboro slime are demonstrating at a funeral, and my presence is both feasable and desired by the family, I'm more than willing to show my support for the servicemen.
 
I may not agree with what the WBC has to say, and unfortunately I live in the same state as them, but they do have the right of the 1st amendment backing them up. I really hate their messages of intolerance, it make me very angry to listen to them, but as I've always said "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." I think they (the WBC) are missing the fact that the very people they are protesting, are the same people that protect their right to say the things they say. I have the utmost respect for the soldiers fighting and dying for our country. But on the same hand I can't take away someone elses right just because I don't believe what they say. As long as they aren't doing anything technically illegal, there is not much else we can do besides trying to minimize the distractions towards funerals of soldiers and other events.
 
they do have the right of the 1st amendment backing them up. I really hate their messages of intolerance, it make me very angry to listen to them, but as I've always said "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
Agreed. But the First Amendment does not protect any mythical right to disrupt funerals.


I don't know why so many here get their panties in a bunch over Fred Phelps. Phelps is just the next logical step of Falwell, Dobeson and the rest of the religious right.

Remember after 9/11 when Jerry and company told us the attack was from Gays and abortionists? Why is Phelps any crazier than that?
I can see that you are not really familiar with any of the parties you're talking about. Are you aware that Focus on the Family has been picketed by Phelps, who considers them "fag-lovers"? If you'd like to see where Phelps differs from actual Christians, go to his websites and see what Wikipedia has to say about their doctrine. Well, nevermind. You don't appear to know enough about Christianity to tell the difference.
 
rights are inalienable when they do not harm the innocent or trample preferred public policy. the second amendment protects the rights of law abiding citizens to keep and bear arms, is highly restricted, and widely accepted as a right that one can remove themselves from keeping through a wide variety of antisocial behavior. the first amendment ought have equal checks and balances, as it's been acknowledged since antiquity that the pen is mightier than the sword, and that causing anxiety, fear or other forms of mental anguish is an actionable offense. this should not be protected speech. and while i laud PA's men in blue for blocking the group, perhaps allowing them to protest something where peoples' views are not as polarized as with the war would have been a wakeup call to the reality that we ought have no constitutional duty to allow, let alone protect, this kind of behavior. is it clean, speaking in terms of technicalities? no. but the notion that protecting hate-speech is a necessary component of the first amendment is equally shaky, and i think reason would win out if someone bothered to put up a serious opposition the longstanding injustice of wasting resources to protect people like westboro.
 
Amen.

I clicked on the link provided by P35 and found their law firm's website. It cracks me up the way this nut pats himself on the back for being some kind of champion of civil rights. I guess civil rights only apply if you are not gay, a soldier, or someone who dares to speak out against them. Check it out.

Now, Ezekiel, who's a hypocrite ????
 
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