VoodooMountain
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That makes a 243 Winchester with a 95 gr ballistic tip a 550 yard deer gunRegardless of bullet restrictions the .223 is a varmint cartridge. It can never get away from that - too small and too light to be suitable for CXP2 game (or humans of the same size). It's not legal for CXP2 game in many places either.
Actually, no, you've totally failed to understand my logic. Show me a .30-30 load that can keep it's bullet within the manufacturer's intended operating window at 350 yards, and we can talk. Only there is no such load, because all .30-30 bullets have horrible BCs. The 6x45 can do it no problem. And I can say from experience that the 100gr partition does exactly what you'd want at the low end of its designed operating velocity range: it expands and almost always gives through-penetration, resulting in a fast drop and massive blood trail.
It's perfectly functional and a designed application of the bullet. Just ask call up Nosler and ask them.
Sierra states their 30-30 bullet (#2000) when launched at 2200-2400 fps from a handgun is good to 150-200 yards which gives it a velocity of about 1600 fps at that range, and that is at the higher end.
So, from a rifle that can obtain 2500 fps it would give that bullet 300 yards to drop off to 1600fps.
I say again, the 30/30 nor the 25 sharps or 6x45 are 300 yard deer runs for anything other than a trick shot. The 30/30 is Not a consistent 300 yard deer gun out of a bolt, lever, or contender.
Killing an animal quickly requires more than a bullet that expands, as I mentioned earlier . Why not just use a varmint bullet since it will expand at an even lower velocity? For that matter, hardcast bullets can work great and without expansion. There is much more going on in terminal ballistics than what you are mentioning.
I have done quite a bit of bullet testing in media for reduced loads and many bullets will expand well below their listed velocity and all bullets become erratic performers when used at the lower end.
I fully understand your support for more energy out of the platform but there isn't 1 caliber that can do it all. The 308 comes close but recoil, weight, platform reliably, and cost hold it back.