What .44 Magnum is the most fun?

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or the outdated, double action Redhawk

Dated, yes. Outdated, no.

The Redhawk and Super Redhawk can handle any .44 thrown at them.......if anything, they are BOTH overbuilt for the .44 Mag. Now, the SRH may even be overbuilt for the likes of the .454 and .480 (500 S&W?), but I digress...

The more "classic" lines of the RH make it my favorite by a mile. The SRH is the only revolver I can think of that makes a Glock look pretty :D

Lastly, I think the Redhawk & Security Six are the best DA wheelguns Ruger ever made - clean, respectable action(s), strong, sexy, etc. ........ as where the SRH / GP100 are all about brute strength.

YMMV
 
I have a couple S&W model 29's, one is 8 3/8 inches and the other is 6 inches. I tend to shoot the heck out of the longer one and it just fits my hand with the Presentation grips. I also have a couple Ruger SBH SS models, one with the 10/12 inch scoped barrel that I use for white tail hunting with great results I might add. All good choices from the above posts. Any other LGS in the area you could look in? Might find what you want at a better deal yet.
 
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The one on the right is a 3.75" super blackhawk in .44 mag with the bisley grip. Plenty comfy for all day shooting with magnum loads, and tons of fun. Much more enjoyable to shoot than a friends 4" 629,and he agrees.

I don't have one (yet), but a super redhawk is on my short list. just trying to decide on caliber. i'm sure it would be a fine choice in .44 mag as well.
 
Don't take this wrong because I own and shoot Ruger handguns but there are myths surrounding them. Many shooters mistake size with strength. Just because their revolvers are so big doesn't make them stronger than other revolvers. They are that large because the investment casting used to make the frames requires the larger size to match the strength of a smaller forged frame.

Not I'm not saying Rugers are not strong, I'm only saying they are not the "tank" so many people claim they are because if their size.

The guns made by Magnum Research are not as large but can withstand more pressure than the Rugers. How many Rugers are chambered in 30-30, 45-70, 450 Marlin and the like?
 
Don't take this wrong because I own and shoot Ruger handguns but there are myths surrounding them. Many shooters mistake size with strength. Just because their revolvers are so big doesn't make them stronger than other revolvers. They are that large because the investment casting used to make the frames requires the larger size to match the strength of a smaller forged frame.

Not I'm not saying Rugers are not strong, I'm only saying they are not the "tank" so many people claim they are because if their size.

The guns made by Magnum Research are not as large but can withstand more pressure than the Rugers. How many Rugers are chambered in 30-30, 45-70, 450 Marlin and the like?

...and most folks that shoot .44 mags for "fun" don't need the extra heft or the strength. But then it comes down to one's definition of fun. For some folks, fun shooting a .44 mag, is shooting it at the range where accuracy and comfortably putting 50-200 rounds downrange into reactive targets or paper is the goal. A good trigger, comfortable grips and enough gun to absorb recoil makes for a fun day. Then there's those folks that feel a gun and it's ammo must come to the cusp of breaking your wrist with every shot and unless your buddy screams with pain at every shot and disbelieves you really enjoy shooting that monster, it's not a good day. For the guy that wants a Back-up gun to carry all day on his hip, while it's a blast at the range off bags, a Big Ol SRH with a 9.5" pipe is not "fun". One needs to get their priorities straight and understand there's a lot of variables.

As for me,like I said, I shoot tons at my personal range. When I go to shoot, I go to shoot all day. I'll shoot clay pigeons off the berm @ 70 yards with my 629s and other handguns and there will be many 100 round ammo boxes empty. I'll attempt to ring the 8" gong @ 100 yards with all of them, including my J-Frame 637 carry gun. This is whats fun for me until I can hunt with my handguns. Even when I hunt with my .44s, I use ammo loaded below max, as I load for accuracy and not velocity. I've yet to find the need for busting my wrists for another 50FPS or the need for a 300 gr bullet outta a .44 for deer. My 240s over a moderate load of H110/4227 do just fine and give me complete pass thrus. I don't need a gun that will withstand the heaviest BB "Butt-Buster" ammo. I want a .44 that will put every shot into a pie plate @ the range I hunt. When I need something more than I can get from them, I use the .460. Everyone's opinion of what's fun with a .44 is different, and that will dictate what gun is the most fun for them. Wont make it the most fun for everyone tho. Folks need to understand that.
 
How many Rugers are chambered in 30-30, 45-70, 450 Marlin and the like?

aren't 30-30 and .45-70 chamber pressures less than .454 casull?

also, from what i've read BFR frames and internals are the same as rugers and cast by the same company.
 
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RalphS, how do those Pachmayrs change the feel of the Redhawk compared to the wood grips? With the wood grips I couldn't get comfortable - it felt like my fingers were jammed up there between the trigger guard and the bottom of the grip. Those grips on a 629 were perfect.

Buck was talking about different types of fun, and that's a good point. I'm not a recoil junkie and I'm not likely to shoot many nuclear loads through a .44, any more than I do through my .357s. Once in a while I will, but I doubt I'll do it enough to shoot a S&W loose. So it's going to come down to whatever fits my hands and my budget - either a 29/629 or a Redhawk.
 
Grips are always a personal thing, so I can only tell you how it feels to me.

There is always a difference between how a grip feels when you hold the gun and how it feels to actually shoot a full power load.

The factory wood grips feel great until I actually try to shoot a full power load. Then it hurts like crazy.

With the Hogue Bantam grips (as seen on the 4 inch RH), I can shoot one or two rounds without pain.

With the Uncle Mikes grips (not made any more but Numrich usually has them) I can shoot a couple of cylinders.

With the Pachmayr Presentation grips, I can shoot it all day, although I've learned to limit it to around 30-50 rounds per session.

So, for me, it's either the Uncle Mikes or the Presentation grips. I have both. A lot of Redhawk owners end up with one or the other.

The Presentation grips are heavier and wider. The Uncle Mikes grips are a little narrower and lighter.

For the range, it's always the Presentation grips. For carry in the field, it's the Uncle Mikes grips because they save about 1 1/2 ounces and I can get a solid grip on it a few nanoseconds quicker.

These are the Uncle Mikes grips http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/1287770.htm Currently sold out.
 
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Just a few more points -

Full power loads to me mean 1200-1300 fps. I shoot 240, 300, 325 and 355 grain hardcast bullets at that speed.

If you want to shoot bullets in the 800-1000 fps range, then wood grips are fine, open backstraps are fine, lightweight guns are fine.

But for full power loads with heavy hardcast bullets, I like a wide rubber grip which covers the backstrap.

As far as strength goes, the main practical difference between the S&W 69, S&W 29/629, and the RH/SRH is the length of the cylinder. The Ruger cylinders are longer which allows for heavier (longer) bullets.

The bullets in the picture of my gun are Beartooth Bullet 355 grain hardcast. They won't fit in a S&W cylinder.
 
I've owned and shot 6 44 Magnums in 7.5", 6.5". 6" and 5.5" barreled revolvers. Shot a couple 4" guns and shoot some hefty 44 Special 1100-1200 fps in a 3" 44 Special S&W. I've burned 10's of thousands of rounds from 400 fps gallery round ball clear up to 1500 fps 240 grain loads. Shot lots of deliberate single action and many, many double action.

Here's what I've learned. Get a gun that fits. Don't get a light for chambering gun - that's for later. For that matter, too big a gun will make you associate cumbersome with the chambering. Forget fancy or pretty grips. Get grips that work and take the beating out of shooting it or proficiency will likely not be obtained. If you can find good grips that are pretty knock your socks off, get 'em if you like. I don't care for longer barrels 7" and longer. Short barrels just castrate the cartridge, compromise shootability and don't provide any advantage except portability.

5.5" to 6.5" barrels work great. Holsters decent, controls well, transitions to next target in action events good, and has good cartridge efficiency. The Smith 6" 29 and 629 heavy under lug guns and 1050 fps 240 grain loads are sweet and awesome in double action. Even factory level 240 grain magnum loads are pleasant. My favorite is my 5.5" Ruger Redhawk. It is an efficient bowling pin revolver and I have used it in Hunters Pistol, great success in both. All my 44 Magnums wear rubber stocks. Expect a little more discomfort in tbe winter time shooting in the cold. Rubber grips are a benefit then.

RELOAD!!! The only way you'll be able to afford getting practice needed. Plus all the different loads you can build will make it your favorite cartridge! The 44 Mag is my favorite...
 
"As far as strength goes, the main practical difference between the S&W 69, S&W 29/629, and the RH/SRH is the length of the cylinder. The Ruger cylinders are longer which allows for heavier (longer) bullets."

Silhouette shooters have demonstrated time and again the Rugers are stronger and tougher. S&W made major improvements to their N frames to address how quickly the N frames in 44 Magnum shot loose and out of time, unlocked the cylinders and it would rotate forward or backward, trigger slamming against the trigger finger and a few other things. Ruger made no engineering changes and still easily outlast them.
 
The first time I saw a Super RedHawk, I HAD to have one. They came out somewhere around 1988, and I bought my 7.5" SRH in 1989. I still own it, its my only 44 Magnum, and its a hit wherever I shoot it. Countless people have asked, and were allowed to shoot it, and it always gets great comments. Its one of the few Rugers I've bought that the sights were perfectly set for me right out of the box, and I can hit 6" targets all day long with the open sights, at 100 yards.
 
Be careful not to confuse the Super Redhawk with either the
single action Super Blackhawk or the outdated, double action Redhawk.
The Super Redhawk is the successor to the Redhawk;
but, the Redhawk is still in production.
There's nothing outdated about the Redhawk and strength between the two is the same.


Do not make the mistake of purchasing a barrel length less than 5 inches.
For a magnum revolver, shorter barrel lengths have too much muzzle blast;
and, they do not allow the bullet to reach full velocity.
Myth. Velocity in handguns is vastly overrated, especially with cast bullets. Having shot 4 5/8", 6½" and 7½" Ruger .44's side by side, there is little discernible difference in blast. Perceived recoil is actually less in the shorter barrel as it has less leverage against the wrist.

The only way for the cartridge to reach its full velocity is in a rifle barrel.


For your first 44 magnum, avoid purchasing any single action revolver.
The 19th century, plow handle grip does not handle recoil nearly as well
as a full frame, double action revolver.
Interesting because many shooters (hesitate to use the word "most":rolleyes:) prefer a single action for handling heavy recoil. The Ruger Bisley is a particular favorite for this reason. DA's transmit recoil more straight back into the palm and SA's transmit more of it upward in the form of muzzle rise. For every .475 or .500 custom Redhawk/Super Redhawk built by custom gunsmiths, there are probably at least 10-20 built on Ruger Bisleys. John Linebaugh won't do them any other way. There are very good reasons for this. Having owned Redhawks, Super Redhawks, Super Blackhawks, Blackhawks and Bisley models plus S&W 29's, 629's, Ruger's Bisley is the best of the bunch.


Also, the double action Super Redhawk will provide you with several
after market grip options. The Blackhawk and Redhawk grip options
are extremely limited !
Having thoroughly explored grip options for all of the above, those for the SRH are dismal. No one makes a full Roper style target grip due to the grip stud having to be glass bedded in place. What we're left with are cheesy wood or laminate GP-100 grips or squishy rubbers. The best of the SRH grips are the factory rubber grips with the interchangeable panels. All of which are atrocious compared to a custom gripped Bisley.


Also, the Super Redhawk, is much stronger than any Smith and Wesson.
It is made to handle a steady diet of 44 magnum without beating up
the gun or the shooter. The same CANNOT be said for the Smith and Wesson.
This much is true. Despite the forged versus cast argument, the Redhawk/Super Redhawk are significantly stronger than S&W's in both the pressure they can contain and they number of rounds for which they can contain it.


The full frame Super Redhawk will help you to make an informed decision
about whether you like shooting 44 magnum. It will help you develop
a good reference by which to compare future 44 magnum purchases.
The SRH is a great sixgun and an excellent option but far from the only one. Depends on the individual's wants and needs. For me, it is the best option for a hunting sixgun that will wear an optic as I don't care for the barrel mount of the Redhawk or Super Blackhawk Hunter models. Which is why I own a .480 and have another in .44Mag on the way.


The Super Redhawk also allows you to easily change the front sight to
one you prefer. Also, the Super Redhawk comes with scope rings in the box !
Scope mounts are integrated into the frame of the Super Redhawk.
Again, options are limited. IMHO, the Bowen ramp is the best available. Here's a shot of the Bowen sights on my .480, along with another failed grip option.

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Interesting because many shooters (hesitate to use the word "most":rolleyes:) prefer a single action for handling heavy recoil. The Ruger Bisley is a particular favorite for this reason. DA's transmit recoil more straight back into the palm and SA's transmit more of it upward in the form of muzzle rise.

Why is that?

Looked at some more .44s today. The new leader in the clubhouse is the 5-inch 629 (except for that confounded lock). Still to be heard from: a 4-inch 629 (not sure I want to go that short) and a 5.5-inch Redhawk (expected to be a strong contender, whenever I find one to look at).
 
Another question - why do the triggers and hammers on new Smiths look dirty? They can't possibly be that dirty right from the factory, and my 1989 Model 64 doesn't look like that, so what gives?
 
Most enjoyable for me is Timberwolf .44 pump rifle and in revolver Ruger Redhawk 5" barrel wearing rubber grips.
 
While I agree with those who say "they are all fun", I do have a preference for guns that are a bit heavier.

I can put easily put 100 rounds through my 5 inch Model 29 (3 lbs). But my 3 inch 629 that weights 2 lbs and 8 ounces isn't nearly as comfortable to shoot high volumes through.

I love all my .44's, but the heavier pistols are easier when shooting a lot of full-house magnum loads.
 
I have Ruger and Smith and Wesson... Do the 29-2 in Smith... Go ahead make your day .......sweet action..

Thewelshm
 
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