Constantine-p89
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The ''Make my day law''(Muskogee only, probably). If their in your house their paid for.
The above is what some would call a "straw purchase" and others would call a "private sale". As long as private sales are legal the burden a BG would bear compared to a GG is close to zero.
Make private sales illegal, or nearly so by having strict requirements on the sale, and you now have an enforcement nightmare.
Please, step away from the "MP-5s on a plane" bogeyman.....
.... and tell me how you would keep shotguns out of the hands of bad guys without placing restrictions on my freedoms.
"Without placing restrictions on your freedoms?" Don't know if that's possible. But maybe society simply chooses to regard keeping shotguns away from bad guys as more important than every last tiny little piece of your freedom. Maybe that's what society (i.e. most of us) thinks is "reasonable"..... and tell me how you would keep shotguns out of the hands of bad guys without placing restrictions on my freedoms.
You know, burdening the BG as much as possible while burdening the GG very little.
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Then I would suggest you have been suckered by the antis.Now if you want to make laws like- "using a gun in a felony adds 20 years to your sentence" THEN I would say these are reasonable gun laws.
Not quite. It is "All legislative powers granted ...". That means they can pass only those laws they have been granted authority to pass. The BOR limits that authority."All legislative powers". That means they can pass any law they like.
Even an utter moron can see that that last comment is not High Road.But if in some twisted bizzaro world fantasy, toting MP-5's around was commonplace, and if MP-5's could be bought anywhere with no need to produce ID, and carried anywhere with no questions asked, even an utter moron might see that the death squad could just blend in with the crowd.
From Article 1, Section 6: They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.
And no matter what they say in debate, no matter what they advocate for, you can't touch them.
But if in some twisted bizzaro world fantasy, toting MP-5's around was commonplace, and if MP-5's could be bought anywhere with no need to produce ID, and carried anywhere with no questions asked, even an utter moron might see that the death squad could just blend in with the crowd.
Even an utter moron can see that that last comment is not High Road.
And one should not need a genius IQ to figure that shotguns, hacksaws, and trench coats would allow terrorists to blend in with the crowd for long enough to slaughter crowds of people in malls, airport security lines, schools, and many other victim disarmament zones, if they are determined to do that.
What has "openly" got to do with it?The reason those options are not open to them now is because MP-5's may not be openly toted around in public in America by non-LEO, so people doing so are immediately noticed. If anyone could do it, and tote them anywhere, the terrorists could blend in.
From Article 1, Section 6: They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.
And no matter what they say in debate, no matter what they advocate for, you can't touch them.
Read it again. That's debate IN SESSION; no arrest IN SESSION. And felony arrest allowed even then. That is hardly untouchable.
It is "All legislative powers granted ...". That means they can pass only those laws they have been granted authority to pass. The BOR limits that authority.
The reason those options are not open to them now is because MP-5's may not be openly toted around in public in America by non-LEO, so people doing so are immediately noticed. If anyone could do it, and tote them anywhere, the terrorists could blend in.
What has "openly" got to do with it?
MP-5s can be concealed easily enough, and determined terrorists certainly can get them, so why aren't they using them now?
And why aren't they using sawed-off shotguns being used instead? Hacksaws are totally legal.
And not so simple reality.It's simple economic theory.
You can be sure of no such thing.If you make something more difficult or more expensive, people will do or buy less of it. How much less is determined by the elasticity of the demand for the product or activity.
If you make guns harder to get for the BG's, by closing off normal commercial channels, fewer BG's will be able to get guns (or will want to bother getting them). How many fewer? Who knows. But you can be sure that some number fewer will have them.
Which is not what happens in reality – think England and Australia.If at the same time, you impose only a small or negligible burden on the GG's, the numbers of them seeking to acquire guns should not change by any significant amount.
In your dreams.So the balance of power shifts towards the GG's.
In reality, gun-control laws have nothing to do with burdening BG’s – their PURPOSE is to burden the GG’s.Now the elasticity of the demand for guns is much "stiffer" among BG's than among most GG's. So you need to place a large burden on the BG's to make any significant difference.
So what?... and the guns that they get will not be as good.
But it is a well documented principle of economics that change takes place at the margins - meaning the criminals most likely to be affected are those who are least motivated in the first place; i.e., the least dangerous.How many fewer? I don't know.
ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL.But it is a well documented principle of economics that if you make something more costly or more difficult, fewer people will do it.
They won't need to, either, right?But they won't get on board the plane with any of that junk, right?
What metal detectors? There were none at VT. There are none at airport security lines until it is too late. Most schools don't have them. Do you know of a shopping mall that would dare use them?Pretty tough to get any of that stuff through the metal detectors, don't you think?