What caliber carbine: 9mm VS .40s&w VS 10mm VS .45acp

What handgun caliber carbine for self defense?

  • 9mm ?

    Votes: 89 30.5%
  • .40S&W ?

    Votes: 28 9.6%
  • 10mm ?

    Votes: 110 37.7%
  • .45ACP ?

    Votes: 65 22.3%

  • Total voters
    292
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G27 and Sub2000 in Glock .40 config.

This Combo has worked for me for yrs. in .40! Cheap, accurate, Glock reliable, Compatable ammo ,mags (G22 hicaps)and acc.'s(M6)etc...all fits in a handy breifcase to boot ;-) EZ call for I.

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Why bother with a handgun caliber carbine?..just get an ar15 and forget the plinkers. All they are good for is plinking anyway..........
 
the day i find a sidearm in .223 that take the same mags as that AR I very well just might ! But till then? Happy T-Day by the way!...In general Im a BIG bore kind of guy though SOOO since it is a pistol cal. carbine thread by title...otherwise .44Mag/.44 Spl's for I as well!. Same concept diff. format:)
 
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For an AR platform I would go with 5.56, why use a weaker cartridge?

10mm only one of the calibers you listed that might have an advantage from carbine over 5.56, and that would only be for hunting things like white tail.
 
I voted .45, because I have a CavOly .45 ACP carbine which has proven itself reliable and accurate. If I couldn't use the Cavalry Arms MKII lower, or one of the wider well grease gun lowers, I would vote 9mm. This is strictly based on magazines. The grease gun mags work well, but are becoming more expensive. The Colt 9mm mags work well, but are already expensive, (though it seems they might be coming down a little.)

The .40 and the 10mm are handicapped by the lack of good magazines. (Though I understand some people have modified gg mags for both cartridges. I will modify most anything else, but I try to avoid modifying magazines, if I can.)

My experience is that carbine barrels do not slow down bullets from pistol cartridges. Not saying that it has never happened, but I do think that it is a "black swan" event. I admit to almost no experience comparing 16" barrels to 10" barrels, but the one time I did, the carbine still proved superior. In other cases, all carbine barrels out performed pistol barrels with the same cartridges. I still don't have enough samples to mean anything to a statistician, but I am confident that 16" barrels provide higher velocities than 5" barrels.

For those of you who think that the .45 does not improve as much with the longer barrel as the 9mm, I suggest that you look at the kinetic energy increase, rather than the velocity increase. Looked at that way, they come much closer together. Which leads to another point. If you use expanding bullets, you should consider the heaviest holllow points available, regardless of caliber. The velocity increase can cause the lighter bullets to over expand, and under penetrate. That is another reason why I like the .45ACP. It gets that 230 grain up fast enough that it performs well, both expanding and penetrating. At least that has been the case in my semi-scientific experiments.:)
 
see now why you wanted isolate 10mm stuff - remember reading about it some years back, and thought, "now, that's hot", but have not seen much since. Metric or English horse shoes, 10 mm or S&W 40 - confusion reigns, at least for me, a .45 Colt fan. But the public will never find out in these secret forums. Don't lock out controversial strings, but rather remind everyone about the importance of inteligent discourse. Warn offenders, develope punishment gradients for repeaters, up to and including banishment, but please do make us chase all over the internet for information because of "bickering". Argument is essential for education - let's just be polite about it.

wb
 
.40 S&W

It is good sometimes to revive threads...

35 cents ea. delivered to the house (Winchester JHP 180 gr). Higher Pressure thus more V out the 16 in. spout. $305.00 + 15.00 (for a 33 rnd clip) for a 4lb Carbine that folds in half and fits in a tool box, under my truck seat, or in my laptop case. Oh yeah and not only is it more accurate at all distances but the clips are interchangeable with my $1,200 Glock (Cuz I had to customize it so it didn't suck).

.223 IMO is not worth my money (Whole different thread). Give me a .308 carbine any flavor any time. Crap it won't fit in my backpack though. Damn it weighs 14lbs... Does this .308 SA pistol make my [bottom] look fat?

Nuff said?
 
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