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Skribs

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I'm curious to see what other people on here have learned since they started shooting. I read recently that your first carry gun will likely be sold to buy a different one once you realize what you really want, and it's somewhat true. I do not have my first gun anymore (though that is more because what I really wanted came out a month after I bought my first gun). My Mom decided she wanted a compact 380 instead of a revolver. I know there's at least one moderator on this site who came out of a thread I was in rethinking a thing or two.

So, what have you learned about guns since you started shooting that has changed the way you approach things? Whether its from experience, mistakes, or just education and discussion. Here are somethings I've learned (only #4 and #5 in a particular order):

1. If you can use it effectively, it's relative value is debatable. If not, it is ineffective. For example, 9 vs 40 is an easy debate if you cannot shoot 40 accurately.

2. Manually operated firearms like pump shotties or revolvers are still subject to mechanical or user failure. Semi-automatic shotguns are therefore not a bad idea.

3. The quality of the control surface isn't always great; testing the controls before you buy is a good idea. Some are difficult to use or feel weak and spongy, others are easy to use with a firm manipulation.

4. Capacity is king, so ditch my crummy revolvers and anything that isn't 9mm.
5. Diversity is good, especially in a shortage, so I should restock on revolvers and get every popular caliber plus a few that are not.

6. No matter how good I am with pistols in Counter Strike, long guns are better in real life.

7. Being left eye dominant, it is easier to shoot with my left hand. Therefore ambidexterity is important to me.

8. It takes more than reading a how to on the internet to gain proficiency. Practice is important.

9. Illuminated ironsights appear as black silhouettes when shining a light in front of them, or as white dots when shining a light behind them. Therefore, if you can see your target, you cannot see the illuminated sights. However, they make your gun easier to find in the dark and look cool, so they are worth it.

10. Always have a spare in the safe in case your primary breaks.

Well, some may seem like common sense and the lessons weren't too difficult, but this is what I've learned (and THR helped a lot along the way). What have you learned?
 
1) You'll have a drawer full of holsters before you have the "right" one for each of your carried firearms.

2) You should indeed care about the political climate in other states as it pertains to firearms. Ilk has a way of spreading.

3) Rifle bullets (such as the .223) are less likely to penetrate multiple interior walls or other items than are pistol rounds.

4) Don't run out of ammo in your inventory for any gun you might actually want to fire.

5) Don't go anywhere with a loaded gun you would not go without it.
 
1) You'll have a drawer full of holsters before you have the "right" one for each of your carried firearms.

2) You should indeed care about the political climate in other states as it pertains to firearms. Ilk has a way of spreading.

3) Rifle bullets (such as the .223) are less likely to penetrate multiple interior walls or other items than are pistol rounds.

4) Don't run out of ammo in your inventory for any gun you might actually want to fire.

5) Don't go anywhere with a loaded gun you would not go without it.
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I can tell you that I learned that some guns "fit" me and others don't. I picked up a CZ85 and shot it more accurately the first time I ever shot it, than other guns I have practiced and practiced with. Similarly, my father bought me a very expensive deer rifle when I graduated high school and could never shoot it accurately. When I picked up his Savage 99, I was super-accurate...and he was super accurate with MY rifle.
 
Guns are social. They like to make friends, and if your lucky enough you can house lots of friends. Feeding everybody gets expensive if you buy the food prepared, it's much cheaper to cook at home.
 
That no matter how many guns I have, it's not enough.
Yep. Im way past even pretending that the additional firepower has any practical advantage over the guns I already have. But I still want more and the shorter the "wish list" gets, the longer it grows.

There are more upgrades than I ever imagined. When I was young, I shot guns as I bought them. Now most have at least one, if not many, mods.

Once you shoot a good trigger, you dont want to shoot anything that doesnt have a nice trigger.

Always keep extra ammo around. Also always bring extra to the range to share. I have found most shooters are more that willing to let you shoot their guns, and its nice to be able to offer the same.

Optics are a "you get what you pay for proposition".

If you have a gun you enjoy, dont get rid of it. Even if your hobbies and interests temporarily change. Only sell a gun if you really dont like it or if you really need the money.
 
I've learned I like my guns and shooting now more than twenty years ago.
I'm like reloading more and more.
I'm finding I wish I had learned how to be a machinist.

Mark
 
This is a good post.

I have learned:

1) It is not the gun that does the work; it is the person.

2) Practice is the key.

3) It is better to have more ammunition than to have more guns.

4) Junky firearms in the right hands perform better than expensive firearms in inexperienced hands.
 
Skribs, I was going to offer the range as an exception, but deleted the text because some ranges require you to arrive with unloaded guns only. ;)
 
Wow I started shooting over 50 years ago. I think I might have learned more than a post full of things in that time. Starting from the beginning I learned that my dad's shotgun wouldn't really knock me down or even hurt that bad when I shot it if I just held it right. Second I learned not to shoot clays so soon after someone throws them because my dad gets mad about it. Third I learned I really didn't shoot someone who was behind me although it sounded like he was shot from all the screaming. Then I learned it was because I actually hit that clay pigeon.

The second day of shooting...

Oh heck. This is just going to take too long.
 
MedWheeler:

You made a comment that inspires some thinking:
"Don't go anywhere with a loaded gun you would not go without it".

That reminds me of some advice from a guy in FL with a handgun/carry Youtube Channel:
He reminds people to never change their habits or behavior, just because they are legally armed. This must be what you mean.
All of this indicates that we should never feel as if we have a "security shield".
 
Still have my first carry gun and still shoot it best.

I made the best caliber choice for me.

I'm every bit as polite as I was before I started carrying.

You can't have enough holsters (my wife said it best...holsters are like women's shoes).

Don't push anyone into carrying until they are ready.

Don't make enemies with antis.

Be safe.
 
Well, I learned shootin' the wrong way, shootin' the right way, cleanin', carryin', smilin', enjoyin', sellin', tradin', loadin', bullet castin' and a whole lot more that I've probably forgotten by now and relearn more often than I care to remember.
 
Remember: these are just my opinions based on around 50 years of shooting and almost 30 years in police work.

1- Under stress - an expert shot is lucky to hit his target
2- Practice is important
3- It's less important what you shoot that how you shoot it
4- Shooting in general is subject to fads. Do you really need all that 'junk' ?
5- TACTICAL is probably the most overused and misused word in the gun world.
6- The idea of Shooting till your target drops only teaches you to shoot your weapon dry while missing a lot. I do not want an empty gun in a gun fight.
7- Listen to the 'experts' but also think about what they are saying and does it really sound right in your experience.

45 acp was tested against other cartridges by actually shooting live animals and human cadavers (Hatchers notebook) They figured out size maters (not an exact quote). In the later 70s the government wanted to adopt the 9mm for the military so a bunch of scientist were paraded out with ballistic gelatin and a science show to show that the 9mm was the best stopper in the handgun world (not an exact quote) The Police joined the 9mm band wagon but then .40s&w came along to fill an observed or felt need. The police then got behind .40 in a big way. Now the 'current' thinking is it does not matter which cartridge you pick as they perform very much alike. My conclusion is - Shoot what you like but learn to shoot it well.

8- I had to carry a 40 as a police issue weapon however I do not own a .40s&w. I like my .45 more that my 9mm with the big magazine. But am comfortable with both of them.

Hate to boar you folks so I will quite now.
 
Guns are social. They like to make friends, and if your lucky enough you can house lots of friends. Feeding everybody gets expensive if you buy the food prepared, it's much cheaper to cook at home.
Well put. I want that on a bumper sticker.

1. On any given day of the week you may shoot better with a $300 dollar gun than you do a $1000 gun.
2. Political winds are the shooters worst enemy. Stock up.
3. If you are .005% likely to need a pistol for defense, and spend 60% of your time preparing for it; Just face the facts. This is something you like as a hobby, and that's O.K.
4. Your gonna pay too much for something. It's gonna happen.
5. This is a hobby that expands exponentially. Be careful. You'll be lucky if you only loose one room to it.
 
I learned.... that human nature is fickle and what I like years ago may not be what I like now.
...that I prefer revolvers.
...that I'll take a long gun any day in a self defense situation given a choice.
...that safety procedures must be practiced and reinforced periodically.
...it is better to buy the higher quality (and price) gun if you believe it is a better fit for you.
...that 22 LR is my favorite caliber.
...that shooting like all hobbies ebb and flow as time passes.
...that I like to fish as much as shoot fireams.
...that carrying a gun as an EDC is a pain in the butt unless you believe you need it.
...that stocking up on ammunition is a good thing in the calibers you shoot.
...that getting older sucks.
 
1) Ammo, buy it cheap and stack it deep.

2) Buy high quality with low production runs.

3) Don't haggle over price when dealing with rare hard to find guns.

4) Have a few thousand dollars set aside for the unexpected "deal" when it comes along.
 
I have learned; That not everyone likes guns or shooting and that these people and I can still be friends. That treating those people with respect and friendliness will occasionally result in one of them wanting to go shoot. That the concept of reloading for one caliber is silly, nothing reproduces faster than reloading dies and components. a shortage of any one reloading component puts you out of business. If you are willing to reload for friends at cost of components, you will gain a lot of new friends. A couple of .22 LR bullets properly placed are better than a near miss from a 44 mag.
 
I have learned that it is best to not discuss guns, politics, or religion in public with people that you do not know.
 
If you want to be a really really good shooter, start handloading as soon as you start shooting.

There is no such thing as a new miracle cleaner/lubricant/preservative. Everything out there is based on something that has been around for years.

Use Buckshot or Slugs for self defense in the shotgun. Birdshot will not penetrate deep enough to reliably stop a human attacker.

I think everything else has been mentioned :).

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
I learned that Dad was serious about firearm safety and that he was right. Shooting has taught me that I am responsible for every choice I make and that there are consequences for every action I perform.

Having to have the latest and greatest gear costs a lot of money and leads to a large pile of useless stuff.

A firearm given to you by your father and one given to your son or daughter is more valuable than one you buy for yourself. The one you received from your grand father is the most valuable one of all.

Buying cheap (as opposed to inexpensive) firearms is a poor value. While a good quality arm will age elegantly, cheap ones will only turn ugly.

A good quality arm isn't always expensive or fancy. Expensive and fancy isn't always quality.

Simpler is almost always better.

Shoot Before Modifying. Ammo Before Accessories.

For every handgun a holster; every rifle a sling

Always wear ear protection.

Family makes for the best shooting companions.

Never refuse to take your child shooting.

No one can make you feel lower for missing a shot than your dog
 
I became interested in shooting because I enjoyed cowboy movies as a kid and the neighbor kids and I played cowboys and indians and nothing compared to the excitement of finally getting to go to a shooting range and fire a real bullet.

And I learned that everything portrayed about guns in the movies and on TV is wrong.

So when I take a person who has never shot a gun to a range, the first thing I say to them is, "Forget everything you have seen and heard about guns in movies and TV." Then the safety lesson begins.
 
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