What did you shoot today?

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Fixin to shoot this afternoon:

A 1911 with Norma .45 ACP JHPs. 50 rounds out of 7 mags.

A S&W SD9 VE, two mags of 15 each (I just can't fit 16 in these, though there is a witness hole labeled 16). This consists of JHP from Cavalry Ammunition, National Police Ammunition, and Speer Gold Dot.
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RANGE REPORT

.45 ACP Charles Daly Field 1911
I had the 8-round magazine that came with the gun, and six 7-round magazines, an Ed Bailey and five of a low-priced no-brand off ebay. The Norma JHP, for all 7 magazines, failed to chamber the initial round. I had to monkey with them until they chambered. Seems they were nose-diving. After the first round was chambered they cycled flawlessly except a failure to eject the second from the last case on the Ed Brown (there was a fresh live round in the chamber and a spent case jamming the slide). I decided to proceed with some FMJ Armscor ammo with the 1911 because it is so much fun to shoot. Again I ran all seven magazines with a box of 50 rounds (7x6+8). Here the gun performed flawlessly for all seven magazines.

The NORMA JHP are short (about 1.16") so maybe that is part of the problem, but I experienced the same thing in the past with longer JHP rounds.

One of the best things about the 1911 is that this time I did not get a grip safety spur bash mark on my hand. I think the finger grove grip insert fattening the grip slightly and forcing my hand a tad lower on the grip, as well as my filing off the sharp edges and the downward part of the spur is what made the difference.

The 9mm S&P SD9 VE was a different story.
I only ran`two magazines of 15 rounds each, but fell short of using all the ammo. Here are the results:
Speer Gold Dot: 9 rounds ran flawless
Cavalry: 7 rounds and one jam
National Police Ammunition: 8 rounds and 4 cases stuck in the chamber. I had to pry three of them out with my keys and the salesman got a rod to remove the 4th one. My range bag now has a wooden dowel in case this happens again. So I was left with 6 unshot rounds of the National Police. I thought the extractor might have broken but it looked okay and after clearing that last case, I fired the 9 Speer Gold Dots and, as I said, they ran flawlessly, so I know it is the National Police ammo not the gun. So I have a little over 2 boxes of that ammo to figure out what to do with. I think it is either a bad batch or my gun does not like this ammo.

EDIT: in the interest of fairness, National Police Ammo will give me a full refund, does not know why my gun would not shoot their ammo, and said it shoots fine out of an M&P.
 
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(252) CZ 83 380 ACP Pistol Review - YouTube

Important Note: a fair number of these have a worn part (trigger bar, or t. b. disconnector & rivet etc) which typically causes the Single Action pull to be a 2-stage pull. It's difficult to explain. Send me a pm for a text, or # for a phone call which can explain just my gun....

The DA pull is really smooth with Little "stacking" (tension increase). Mine was manufactured in 1990. The CZ-75 series has quite different components ('sear cage' etc).

This 82/83 series is quite difficult to reassemble (many gun smiths might not work on them)- and then After such Torment..... a new part might not cure a specific anomaly. There are at least two excellent Youtube videos for frame etc reassembly -but it can be a Nightmare, even with a video.

;)Mine has the issue -- but only When Dry-Firing -- and was bought only as a Club (range) gun.
With or without the anomaly - at least in my opinion, mostly due to being all-steel with a thick grip and excellent ergos, is Not 'snappy', and is a Blast to shoot.

And today's .380 ammo costs much less than " 9mm Mak" used in the CZ-82, the CZ-83's twin.
Part of this might help somebody o_O. They might not read about it by random chance anywhere else. OEM mags are difficult to identify and pricey.
 
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Range day yesterday. I took the 5.56 modern sporting rifle (MSR) and .308 Win bolt-action out to 100 yards. First time shooting a 308. First time shooting a bolt-action. It's a Savage and it comes with their AccuTrigger. I really liked the feel of it compared to the trigger on the MSR. It didn't fight me as much and that was a joy to shoot. I also thought of a way to describe the recoil from these guns. The 5.56 feels like something jumping in your hands and the 308 feels like someone pushing your shoulder. It was a lot of fun, and, like all range days, I can't wait for the next one.
 
Update from my long post 1805: today took the CZ-83 a second time to shoot at the club. Good news.

----Perfect, normal SA (+ DA) operation when actually shooting the gun :).......Strange. 100 rounds total used: 'cheap' Remington .380. Zero issue If ammo is used in the gun.

The anomaly described in the very long post # 1805 is Only when Dry-Firingo_O. Obviously this is quite boring to the uninterested, but there might be thousands of CZ-82 or 83 owners in the US.

----Something about the pure blowback action seems to help it work fine, whereby in contrast basic Dry-Firing allows the odd, so-called "2-stage" Single Action regarding the hammer release.

This is probably the only type of handgun I've ever used which is about as much fun to shoot as a rifle.:cool:
My CZ PCR is in second place, behind this surplus CZ-83 (was issued to thousands of LEOs and soldiers).
 
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I went to the range yesterday with my son coaching him a little and loading the mags for him for some 7 to 10 yard fast and furious shooting with his duty gun. Since this was his shooting time, I went this morning and checked POA/POI on a S&W 13-4 at 10 yards and fired a previously shot HK USP Elite in .45 at 25 yards for accuracy with ten rounds. POI again was a little to the right and the rear sight was ... a little to the right. I then shot it at 7 yard with fast pairs and the gun is no slouch - and I am no HK fan boy.
Toro obviously was also very interested in the results :).

Oh, and in reference to another thread, I have cleaned the gun already ( and adjusted the rear sight ). I also loaded up some mags for next week.

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This morning I test fired a few handguns and sighted them in before I finally shot my P210-6 and the .45 USP Expert again. I remembered only when I saw the target of the P210 that I had regulated the sights for a 6 o'clock hold on the ISSF target. Switching over to the Expert made me appreciate the P210-6's trigger and I pulled the first shot off.

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My buddy Jeff and I swapped the Bergara and the Vudoo around in some stocks (MDT, MPA BA, Foundation) to see how they balanced/how/where we would have to add weight, but I was a complete failure at getting pics........Sigh.

We shot off the bench, but also off some barricades and a tank trap.

I did get a pic of the Vudoo in the MPA BA and Foundation stocks yesterday.

The BA with weights in the for-end balanced pretty well, but heavy. I was very butt heavy in the Foundation, would need weight up front.
Vudoo in Foundation Stock @ 45%.JPG
Vudoo in MPA BA Chassis @ 45%.JPG

Balances pretty well in the Manners as long as the EC tuner and bipod are on it.
Vudoo .22 LR in Manners Balanced With Atlas Bipod.JPG
 
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PzGren: In your remarks # 1810,

did that HK USP have the original stock DA trigger pull, or had it been modified to have less abrupt "stacking" (tension increase) at the end of the DA pull?

If modifying USP stock triggers had appeared simpler (I didn't really understand the do-it-yourself descriptions) or less expensive, buying a USP 9mm Compact would have been my clear objective about five years ago.
 
The Expert has a stock trigger and take up in single action feels like three feet long. I will need to adjust the overtravel stop also. The P210-6 has a very crisp trigger and the trigger stop has been adjusted long ago.
Despite the poor trigger characteristics, the Expert is easy to shoot, balances well and has little felt recoil for a .45 ACP. I need to shoot it in comparison to my Colt customs 1911 but my son had borrowed the Colt a few months ago.
 
Yesterday:
Metal plates (only for “handgun rds.) with a CZ-83 in .380 acp. Ding—-

Round, dirty, chewed-up, plastic ball target from Academy at 30 yards, with the VZ-58, 7.62x39. Jump—-

Clay pigeons on a 50-yard berm with a
PTR-91, HK (G3) clone in .308. Shatter/vanish—-

A “tight group” isn’t needed very often, just a target that “dings”, or jumps, possibly shatters. :)Were I to die in a few days, it has been fun shooting. There is nobody who I need to impress, with 'groups'.
 
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Does dry fire practice count? Too cold, 0, for these arthritic hands and knees to go out.
Ten "roundless" rounds offhand from the new CVA Scout. Offhand. Felt good. Claiming 99/100.
Twenty five snaps with the6" 686. Duelling position.
Twenty five with Max 9.
Hope for temperature relief by Friday. Goin nuts.
 
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