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What do folks here do with their carry gun when they have to go into a post office?

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  1. Pat Riot
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    I meant to post this earlier. When I drive my wife’s Suburban I have used one of these Stack-On mini safes. It has a cable that you can secure around the base of a seat. The combination is electronic and there is also a key. You can program the combination. They are inexpensive. The one I have seems to be a pretty tough little safe but I haven’t beat it up with a hammer to test it out.

    https://www.stack-on.com/product/portable-security-case-medium/
     
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    If you live in the Kansas that's a state in the US, then it's illegal. If you live in some other "Kansas" then I have no idea.

    I, of course, follow the letter of the law and park off site and lock my gun in the vehicle. ;)
     
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  4. redneck2

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    I put it in my console and lock my doors. I’m only gonna be in there five minutes. It broad daylight

    I don’t think it requires a bank vault for security
     
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    Car safe--Nano Vault: approx. $25. Has a 3-digit combo lock.
    Fits just barely inside my Subaru Outback's center console. And the thin black metal cable (going outside the console) can easily be concealed with a couple of Kleenex or camo hat etc.

    The cable easily goes around any part of the seat's lower, thin frame.

    * How would five minutes inside a Post Office allow the federal govt. to know that a gun is in an invisible box in the car? With the engine shutdown, it probably won't catch fire---what else would draw attention?

    When I drive to tonight's 7:00 Krav Maga (Israeli self-defense) class, my Sig P6 goes immed. into the thin safe.
     
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    This. No gun signs in Ilinois carry the force of law, so I need to lock my gun in my car more than I'd like. The lock box fits under my seat, so it's not visible to someone from the outside and it's attached by cable to the frame of the seat. It's not a guarantee that someone can't make off with it, but it's the best option I have.
     
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    I park nearby where it is legal to do so and lock up my EDC. Then I walk over to the PO and return when done.
     
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    Next time youre in there, copy down the cites on the little poster they have there about weapons and actually look them up and read them.

    I think you will find they are conflicting, and if you think about it, it also makes sense.

    I have two friends who up until a few years ago, were both Postmasters in little rural PO's. Both have told me that one of those cites refers to the postal employees, and the other, to the patrons. It depends on who you are and what youre doing there on how they apply.

    Its been a while since Ive read the actual cite, and unless its been changed in the last few years, "our", the patrons cite, states (towards the end) that if you are there for official business and/or "any other lawful purpose", its not against "the law".

    Again, if you think about it, how can you go into the PO and ship a gun, if its against the law, to have the firearm there to ship?

    Most all of these "laws" that appear to restrict your "rights", have that "any other lawful purpose" clause, somewhere in, and usually at the very end of the law. Kind of interesting, isnt it? :)

    They are counting on you to not ask questions, or question their authority, and "do as your told", as most have been conditioned to do these days.

    Call the PO and ask, and most of them dont seem to have any idea, and they will just tell you its illegal. If you want to have fun, ask them why one says you can and the other says you cant. There seem to be a lot of pay grades involved here too, and they all seem to be below the one that has the answer. :p

    Or, you can just shut up, dont ask silly questions and do as your told, like a good little tax paying citizen who really has no rights. :thumbup:
     
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    I give that my stamp of approval.
     
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    My tiny, not-too-much-traffic local Post Office sports a shared car park so I just leave my handgun locked in the glovebox and lock the car (as I always do ... just as I always set the parking brake, even on flat land ;)).

    From inside the PO I can also keep an eye on my truck.
     
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  11. Rembrandt

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    Perhaps the "Don't ask....don't tell" approach is appropriate.
     
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    Send the wife.
     
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  13. old lady new shooter

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    I now thankfully live in the free country of Arizona. :)
     
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    If it is USPS property, it is illegal in every state by Federal law.

    Fortunately, OP's post office is a shared lot. I am fortunate to have one of those near my office, when I need to ship via USPS.
     
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    Wow, that is very clever. I wouldn't have a clue how to do the work myself but I could probably find someone...
     
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    Obviously you're not talking to me...
     
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    IF the PO is a stand alone facility, the parking lot is off limits.....IF it is part of a strip mall, then the parking lot is fine. Reading some of the comments, I think some go overboard; but I will not state my opinions because some of them go against forum decorum
     
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    I leave it in the vehicle. I don't like it, but it's the law.
     
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    I lock it in a console safe in my truck.
     
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    Federal law does prohibit a gun in a Post Office parking lot unless the facility has a shared lot with other businesses. The Postal Service was sued over this issue. In 2015 the 10th US Circuit Court of Appeals ruled against the citizen suing. The US Supreme Court subsequently refused to hear an appeal. Consequently, the law stands. Govern yourself accordingly.
     
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    Hey it's the 21st century you never know
     
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    Perhaps you forgot your question...?

     
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    Can you point us in the direction of even one of those convictions?

    If I was a betting man, I would put money on the fact that any you find used the "carrying on PO property" as an add on to some other crime, such as assault on a PO employee, or armed robbery, or such.

    I haven't heard of a single case of anyone being convicted solely for having a firearm in a locked car in a PO parking lot.
     
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  24. old lady new shooter

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    Nah, his wife also carries.
     
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    :alien:
     
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