What do you think of these new key safety locks ?

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I'am talking these new features on handguns that locks up the gun .
Personally i think a trigger lock should be enough . I don't like these new features what if it malfunctions and locks it up forever ? Not sure if it could
happen . But still think it's not a good feature .
 
They keep trying to turn guns into paperweights so they'll be "safe"...

No locks on guns of any kind. None. Zero. Completely unnecessary.

If you want to keep them away from kids (and thieves), lock them up in a decent safe that's bolted down.

If you have one that you are carrying, the last thing you want is a lock to malfunction, even if it is supposedly unlocked.
 
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I despise it and refuse to buy a handgun with that feature.
 
I didn't know until I brought mine home that the Bersa UC9 Pro has one. It doesn't appear to be likely to engage by itself and after some Googlin', it doesn't seem it happens to any Bersa owners.
My Steyr M40 has something similar. I'm fairly certain I've lost the "keys" to both by now.

I'm indifferent towards them.
Some folks feel the gun and ammunition should be locked in different locations. I suppose it could serve as an option for these worrisom types, allowing them some peace of mind of having a *gasp* loaded firearm squirreled away.

Then again, they'd probably have the key locked up somewhere....
 
Personally i think a trigger lock should be enough
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A trigger lock is overkill.
Think about the last time you cleaned your favorite gun ... remember taking it apart?
At what point was it disabled completely?
Now imagine taking those parts and storing them in two locked locations ... congratulations! You've rendered your firearm inpperable!

Internal locks and trigger locks are (in my opinion) a useless attempt to make guns "safe" even when loaded with the safety lever in "fire".
Would you drop an unloaded firearm with the internal lock activated into a playpen with a kid?
Would you drop an unloaded firearm with a trigger lock in a playpen with a kid?

Of course you wouldn't!

Now, not that it would be a good idea, but could a child find a slide/barrel from a pistol and be safe? And could a child find a frame from a pistol and be safe? How about a revolver frame without the cylinder? Or just a cylinder?

By their complex nature, guns are easily disabled without adding useless devices.
 
Im against them in principle (Clinton and Wesson) and in practice. Even though the failure rates of the S&W locks are minute they are there. Failures of locks dont occur in lock free guns.

It an unnesessary feature that just adds parts and complexity to the firearm making them more dangerous to the person owning it.
 
I'm against them as well. A poor solution in search of a problem. S&W changed the frames to accomodate these idiotic devices, and made their revolvers ugly as well as unreliable.

It is foolish to use a gun so equipped for any serious purpose, IMO.

I see people on the internet advocate them over and over. Reading anyone advocating the use of these guns for self defense, I can't help but wonder if their momma knows they are on the internet and playing with guns.

I've yet to meet anyone locally or at regional matches who carries one. Several purchased one or two so equipped, but have neutered them, and compete with them.

It is no longer an issue for me, as I'm fortunate to be able to purchase superior pre lock revolvers with forged parts, for less than the asking price of the key lock guns. YMMV. TJ
 
If anyone needs them I have a bunch of trigger locks...somewhere. Seems every firearm I've bought in the past ten years comes with one.
 
I did end up using a cable lock to disable my Henry lever gun, I wasn't up to taking it apart before going out of town.

But the general practice when kids will be in my home or I'll be out of town is to remove critical components and store them elsewhere, with frames and rifle bolts and the like in the safe.
I don't see how a trigger lock would make my firearms less functional than removing the barrel.
 
Internal key locks are generally poorly designed, and are made of cheap parts. They can interfere with the functioning of a firearm, even when not activated by the user.

I do not like trigger locks, in fact I think they're stupid. If you need to lock a gun the safest method is a cable lock through the action.

Internal lock = questionable strength, hard to tell if it's locked, most models allow action to be closed and possibly loaded.

Trigger lock= clumsy, can scratch trigger guard or surrounding area, very easy to improperly apply. Again allows for gun to be stored loaded and presumed safe (mistakenly).

Cable lock = Action open, gun clear, visibly locked. Simple to use, no rounds present and no loaded magazine can be insterted, mechanism won't cycle and trigger also deactivated. Can even be run through the barrel of some guns.

Cable locks are by far the best way to go.
 
I don't like them and will never use that lock. The gun goes in a safe if it needs to be locked up.
 
Let's be honest about why these locks are on so many new handguns. The manufactures are trying to protect themselves from lawsuits. I don't blame them but I won't recommend ever using that feature. The only reason I can see for that lock is to keep your gun from functioning if found by a child. A safe is a better solution and if something needs a key then the child most likely knows where it's hidden.
 
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I'am talking these new features on handguns that locks up the gun .
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Where have you been? Key locks on handguns are hardly new.
(And neither is the debate about their appropriateness.)
 
Personally I think they are totally unnecessary but I understand the manufacture's viewpoint too. I have a few handguns that have internal locks. I locked the first one I ever bought just to see if it worked and it did. I unlocked it and that is where it has remained. I haven't even tried the others as I purchased them. I've never had a problem with one failing and disabling the gun, don't know anyone who has had it happen, and have never heard any stories of it happening. Any mechanical devise can fail. I'm just wondering how often it happens in the real world. If I had a concern with them I would just remove them if at all possible.
 
If you really need to render a gun inoperative that bad, just take something out of it.

My P22 has a lock and I tried it out for giggles when I first got the gun. Pulling the trigger with lock engaged makes the lock almost impossible to disengage. If I hadn't thought there was a chance I'd sell it in the future, I'd have thrown the key away right then and there after I got it unlocked.
 
No Locks I have one pistol with a lock I made sure was in off position and lost the key If I need a gun a locked gun is the last thing I want. I believe the court ruled the locking of a firearm in Washington DC used for Home Defense was not legal in the Supreme Court case I remember was something about locked firearms
 
I do not use any locking devise. I see the purpose (CYA for the manufactures). My pistols are locked in a safe that is bolted to the wall.
 
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I despise it and refuse to buy a handgun with that feature.
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+1 I will not
 
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