Is there a cheaper way to do it or is that what we're stuck with?
Plus, ain't no point in insuring it if you lie to 'em about what you are shipping ... you are -never- going to collect.It is against federal law not to inform fedex/ups they are shipping a firearm. If you value your rights, I would strongly suggest you pay the extra money in tell the carrier what they are shipping.
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html#shipping-firearms-carrier
Can 03 FFL's ship non C&R handguns through usps?
I would strongly suggest you pay the extra money
and tell the carrier what they are shipping.
$30 to them from a local mail-it shop via FedEx...the manuf will FedEx it back to my home...$30 back to me...no ffl...no going to a big hub and standing in a long line...
David E:..How does this not violate the aforementioned federal law? AND IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME!
[TITLE 27--ALCOHOL, TOBACCO PRODUCTS, AND FIREARMS
CHAPTER II--BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS, AND EXPLOSIVES,
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
PART 478_COMMERCE IN FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION--Table of Contents
Subpart I_Exemptions, Seizures, and Forfeitures
Sec. 478.147 Return of firearm.
A person not otherwise prohibited by Federal, State or local law may
ship a firearm to a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or
licensed dealer for any lawful purpose, and, notwithstanding any other
provision of this part, the licensed manufacturer, licensed importer, or
licensed dealer may return in interstate or foreign commerce to that
person the firearm or a replacement firearm of the same kind and type.
See Sec. 478.124(a) for requirements of a Form 4473 prior to return. A
person not otherwise prohibited by Federal, State or local law may ship
a firearm curio or relic to a licensed collector for any lawful purpose,
and, notwithstanding any other provision of this part, the licensed
collector may return in interstate or foreign commerce to that person
the firearm curio or relic.
[T.D. ATF-270, 53 FR 10507, Mar. 31, 1988]
Remember, the 100 IQ is an "average". ;-)Had someone tell me that instead of shipping a gun from Nevada to Florida He just got on a plane and took it there himself because it was cheaper. Not sure about that though. Maybe though. One guy said they charged him $500 to ship from NC to MA. If thats the case just buy a plane ticket and fly it up yourself. bonus you get to visit a new place.
David E: ...My subsequent question has to do with boxing up the gun with the company provided shipping label and dropping it off. Clearly in this instance, the carrier is not notified what is inside the shipping container. So how is that not violating the Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm part of the law?
TITLE 27--ALCOHOL, TOBACCO PRODUCTS, AND FIREARMS
CHAPTER II--BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS, AND EXPLOSIVES,
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
PART 478_COMMERCE IN FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION--Table of Contents
Subpart C_Administrative and Miscellaneous Provisions
Sec. 478.31 Delivery by common or contract carrier.
(a) No person shall knowingly deliver or cause to be delivered to
any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in
interstate or foreign commerce to any person other than a licensed
importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector,
any package or other container in which there is any firearm or
ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or
ammunition is being transported or shipped: Provided, That any passenger
who owns or legally possesses a firearm or ammunition being transported
aboard any common or contract carrier for movement with the passenger in
interstate or foreign commerce may deliver said firearm or ammunition
into the custody of the pilot, captain, conductor or operator of such
common or contract carrier for the duration of that trip without
violating any provision of this part....
Note that notification is ONLY required when shipping to someone OTHER than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector.
The only time I can think of would be if I had a match in another state and I send my own gun for me to pick up in that state upon my arrival.