What drills for CCW class?

[SIRVEYR666]

Two of my friends will be taking their CCW class next month. They are asking me what to practice, for the shooting portion of the class. I took my class nearly six years ago, and I cannot remmber what we did. I remember shooting at a pie plate or a 8x11 sheet of paper at 21'. I think?

Am I correct in assuming that most states require the "NRA Personal Protection in the Home" class?

What are some of the drills that are performed in the class? I don't recall them being very difficult. I told them just to focus on safety and shooting slow deliberate groups. I think very basic handgunning skills are that is required to pass the shooting portion.

I learned a lot from my class, but most of it was about mental preparation.

Oh yeah, I remmber the Tueller Drill, too. That was a real eye- opener!

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

Depends on the state.

 

[10 Ring Tao]

A retarded circus monkey could pass the shooting portion of a basic CCW class, and thats because a basic CCW class is less about shooting than it is understanding the laws regarding deadly force and carrying a gun.

Basically, have your equipment in good working order, and be ready to ask questions of the instructor and whoever does the law portion. You'll get your money's worth out of the class if you come away with a clear understanding of when you can use deadly force, and the laws surrounding it.

 

[DaltonSpringfield]

The CCW class is different depending on state.

If I were helping someone practice up for CCW class in Ohio, I would have them shoot the qualification test until they got comfortable. For practice I usually use a smaller target than the standard silhouette. Ohio's qualification test is simple.
5 shots at 5 yards
5 shots at 10 yards
5 shots at 15 yards
5 shots at 20 yards
5 shots at 25 yards
5 shots at 30 yards
5 shots at 35 yards
5 shots at 40 yards
5 shots at 45 yards
5 shots at 50 yards
Total of 50 rounds, pratice until all print inside the outline of the silhouette.

 

[SIRVEYR666]

A retarded circus monkey could pass the shooting portion of a basic CCW class

That's what I wanted to say to them, but they are really nervous. I don't know if that would make them feel better or not?

I did stress that it's mostly about deadly force, but they are worried about the shooting. I've shot with both of them and they are very good marksmen. They'll do fine.

 

[10 Ring Tao]

That's what I wanted to say to them, but they are really nervous.

So tell them to relax, and instead concentrate on learning their obligations under the law regarding deadly force.

 

[Wesson Smith]

Dalton

Your description of the Ohio CCW shooting portion you experienced has me scratching my head. My course was nothing like that, and included 100 rounds of active shooting. And certainly nothing at 50 yards!

 

[longtooth]

Post your state & someone from there will give you the drill.
If you are in Texas it will be easy to pass. I know you have heard that but after they do it one time they will be relaxed.
Post your state for us.

 

[SIRVEYR666]

MI

 

[nplant]

In several states, you could, quite literally, be blind and still accomplish the required minimum shots inside the target to qualify.

No time pressures, enormous target area, do not have to present from holster, even. Just stand there and casually launch rounds at a static target.

I'm not familiar with Ohio's test, but it looks like they require some longer ranges than many other states. Either way, very do-able, and for anyone who can group worth a darn, it's almost laughable. When I did mine, I put a smiley face into the target, just 'cause.

 

[10 Ring Tao]

Michigan, eh?

Make sure to stop by the MI section of glocktalk.com. Good bunch of people, lots of very experienced folks and at least one dealer who posts regularly.

My reply above was actually copied and pasted from a response of mine, to a similar thread there.

 

[Hardtarget]

Here I am in Tennessee. I took the class 6(?) years ago. Most of it was close...one to seven yards. Our longest five shots were 15 yards. Total of 50 shots. Most of the class was about legal stuff.

Tell your friends to practice some, take the class, relax, shoot their best, they'll be O.K.
Mark.

 

[JAMES77257]

On my first practice run I performed a 1.2 sec. failure drill. I was the example of the "What not to do" portion of the class.

 

[Trebor]

In Michigan the vast marjority of instuctors are running the NRA Personal Protection in the Home class for CCW classes. The drills include two handed shooting at ranges from 3 to about 7 yards. A good instructor will work with any student who needs assistance to make sure they can meet the standard of keeping all their shots on a 8 1/2" by 11" sheet of paper or 9" paper plate.

A few instructors are running NRA Basic Pistol classes with extra legal information added to meet Michigan requirements. The problem there is that to teach the Basic Pistol class according to the NRA standard (teaching to standard *is* a state requirement) you have to spend a lot of time shooting from the bench, single loading the pistol, etc. Anyone who tries to teach the Basic Pistol classroom stuff combined with a range session that is more like the Personal Protection in the Home class isn't teaching to standard.

If you have any questions, ask your instructor ahead of time. Ask about their certifications, training and experience and ask how they conduct the class and range drills. There are lots of good instructors in Michigan, but there are still some sub-standard ones out there as well.

 

[Xigris]

I was lucky enough to have an ex-army guy, who also shot in competition, as an instructor in my NRA PP class. We shot SA then DA. Strong hand and weak hand. He set up an old door and we shot around both sides of it. We shot standing, kneeling and sitting.
It was fun; nothing too difficult or taxing. Most of us had perfect or near perfect scores.

 

[HiWayMan]

DaltonSpringfield -

Having taken a Ohio CCW course I can say that we did nothing like what you describe. See, not only is training different by State, but also by instructor.