St. Gunner
Member
Quartus,
Go back and read the Federalist and Anti-federalist papers, or just got to
www.SAF.org and look at the quotes page. The founders specifically found the creation of a standing army to be a detriment to the continuation of liberty and freedom. JimPeel is exactly correct in his understanding. The colonists had just tossed a Red Army that was quarted in their homes into the Atlantic and sent em packing, they never wanted to have to do that again. With a Navy, you have a first line of defense against attacks, but a poor offensive punch in those days besides blockades of supplies.
JimPeel, maybe living on the border I view the problem with a different perspective, I look at the mess we are faced with. Did you know that on American Soil in the State of Texas whole cities refuse to fly the Stars and Stripes, they fly the Mexican flag? Did you know that in many areas the influx of immigrants is welcomed by whole political regions because it enhances their races population density, giving them more clout. Do you realize CA has become a haven by virtue of the state(whose militia you would expect to stop them) to Illegal Mexicans, thus giving them a gateway to other areas. Not a month ago the boss in California deplored his agents not to practice interior enforcement, a couple agents snagged some illegals a few blocks from the consulate and it upset the Mexicans. Part of the problem with our enforcement policy is we treat it as a police action,when we should treat it as an invasion.
Several years ago they made a try at using Marines on the border, right up to the point they killed a sheep herder. Today they use military technology to track people out of Mexico, but the soldiers are not used on the ground, because of screaming about their use on US soil. The National Guard or the State Guard could be used, but then what, do you pay those men and women to patrol the border? If you do then they are nothing more than BP with a different name. BP considers itself a paramilitary institution, i'll learn to march, take orders, and all sorts of other things. Good or Bad it is where we are at today because of the laziness of the general public to lead and protect themselves.
A few years ago a man who was 78yrs old killed an illegal for tresspassing, they convicted him of murder. It sorta runs counter to my idea that the way to stop illegal immigration is to implement a bounty on them. But it passed the world along to everyone watching that illegals can march across you place if they so wish as long as they do it in broad daylight. Sends a hell of a message to the illegals doesn't it.
What the answer is, I really don't know, I just know it isn't being handled as it should and throwing it in State hands is a simple waste of paper, they won't enforce it. Because for one thing they don't have the revenue and do you think the US government is about to send them a dime more of our tax money for a project like that? Maybe after the fall of the tower of Babble that some refer to as Washington DC.
Go back and read the Federalist and Anti-federalist papers, or just got to
www.SAF.org and look at the quotes page. The founders specifically found the creation of a standing army to be a detriment to the continuation of liberty and freedom. JimPeel is exactly correct in his understanding. The colonists had just tossed a Red Army that was quarted in their homes into the Atlantic and sent em packing, they never wanted to have to do that again. With a Navy, you have a first line of defense against attacks, but a poor offensive punch in those days besides blockades of supplies.
JimPeel, maybe living on the border I view the problem with a different perspective, I look at the mess we are faced with. Did you know that on American Soil in the State of Texas whole cities refuse to fly the Stars and Stripes, they fly the Mexican flag? Did you know that in many areas the influx of immigrants is welcomed by whole political regions because it enhances their races population density, giving them more clout. Do you realize CA has become a haven by virtue of the state(whose militia you would expect to stop them) to Illegal Mexicans, thus giving them a gateway to other areas. Not a month ago the boss in California deplored his agents not to practice interior enforcement, a couple agents snagged some illegals a few blocks from the consulate and it upset the Mexicans. Part of the problem with our enforcement policy is we treat it as a police action,when we should treat it as an invasion.
Several years ago they made a try at using Marines on the border, right up to the point they killed a sheep herder. Today they use military technology to track people out of Mexico, but the soldiers are not used on the ground, because of screaming about their use on US soil. The National Guard or the State Guard could be used, but then what, do you pay those men and women to patrol the border? If you do then they are nothing more than BP with a different name. BP considers itself a paramilitary institution, i'll learn to march, take orders, and all sorts of other things. Good or Bad it is where we are at today because of the laziness of the general public to lead and protect themselves.
A few years ago a man who was 78yrs old killed an illegal for tresspassing, they convicted him of murder. It sorta runs counter to my idea that the way to stop illegal immigration is to implement a bounty on them. But it passed the world along to everyone watching that illegals can march across you place if they so wish as long as they do it in broad daylight. Sends a hell of a message to the illegals doesn't it.
What the answer is, I really don't know, I just know it isn't being handled as it should and throwing it in State hands is a simple waste of paper, they won't enforce it. Because for one thing they don't have the revenue and do you think the US government is about to send them a dime more of our tax money for a project like that? Maybe after the fall of the tower of Babble that some refer to as Washington DC.
