What firearms "terminology" makes you grit your teeth?

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Mine would be using CCW to refer to a gun rather the act of carrying it.
The "CCW" acronym frustrates me as well, although it's for a different reason. Here in Ohio, a concealed carry permit is often referred by the state as a "CCW", even though it is specifically for a handgun only and is no good for any other type of weapon. It causes unnecessary confusion. In some states that term is more accurate, but not in Ohio.
 
"Weapon" is what also sends me off. I know what a weapon is. It has to do with use. I can pick up a banana cream pie and it can morph into a weapon. Right into the face of our favorite politician. Here I stand with an original 1885 Winchester and some bozo ask me about my weapon. We have been duped into calling anything that goes bang a weapon. It's not a weapon. This artifact made of iron mainly is a firearm. I want to safely use my firearm and be left alone.

Addendum: Would you call that rifle Mo is holding in my avatar a weapon?
 
"fully semi automatic assault weapon"- anti gunner for "I'm a parrot, who has no concept of how
firearms work, or how to use them. My favorite show is The View."
 
FTF = Failure To Feed. Can't believe I forgot that one. It 'was' a useful acronym until goofballs started using it to mean "failure to fire". Which is what I thought a misfire was. If an acronym can have two completely different meanings in the same context, it has no meaning at all.


The younger generation really likes the cutesy terms. I took the liberty of gathering a few typical examples and putting them into one image for your viewing pleasure...

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Was that even English???
 
You are going to have to explain proper usage, because I don't know of any gun that will not deliver better accuracy from a Ransom rest or 2650 club member.
 
"Weapon" is what also sends me off.
Addendum: Would you call that rifle Mo is holding in my avatar a weapon?
It's similar to calling a vehicle a vehicle. Sometimes it's easier to just say vehicle, as opposed to naming the specific type. Just because a vehicle isn't driving down the road, or "being used as a vehicle" at the moment doesn't mean it's not a vehicle. Same with guns. Just because it's not being used as a weapon, doesn't mean it isn't one.
 
Again, I agree the expression is abused -- but let's not rehash the discussion here, okay?
 
Any firearm? I think it depends on the firearm and the person.
Yes children. This is why I rarely speak in absolutes, hence the use of "virtually". I'm sure if you put a Hipoint in the hands of a top tier bullseye shooter, he'd find its limits. It's a general statement, not intended to be an absolute to be picked apart by those who just want to be right about something.

It's not an abused statement. It's a useless and meaningless one.

A valid, precise and useful statement - "my 6.25" Ruger Baldhawk yielded a 1" five-shot group at 25yds with Remington 237gr Super Blammo from a bench rest".

A useless and irrelevant one - "my Ruger Baldhawk is more accurate than I am". What are we supposed to do with that???
 
That's not erroneous. CCW often means 'concealed carry weapon'. The one you can and do carry concealed, as opposed to one you're not likely to or just never do.
Well, that brings up the issue of whether an acronym has more than one valid meaning within the same context (gun world). I think [C]arrying a [C]oncealed [W]eapon wins the debate, trendy abuses of the language notwithstanding..
 
It's similar to calling a vehicle a vehicle. Sometimes it's easier to just say vehicle, as opposed to naming the specific type. Just because a vehicle isn't driving down the road, or "being used as a vehicle" at the moment doesn't mean it's not a vehicle. Same with guns. Just because it's not being used as a weapon, doesn't mean it isn't one.
I disagree. The term "weapon" is a more broad (i.e. less specific) term than say "firearm". To get even broader and less specific, you could just use the term "thing". (But don't ever use the term "thingy" or it will cause a lot of teeth-gritting and will get mentioned in this thread! :))

Also, a problem comes in when a term is either incorrect or inappropriate for the discussion. The term "weapon" is defined as "something (such as a club, knife, or gun) used to injure, defeat, or destroy" (ref. Merriam-Webster dictionary). If the discussion does not involve injuring, defeating, or destroying, then it is inappropriate to use the term weapon.

Finally, in discussions and writing, we all tend to go up at least one level of generality to make communications easier. For example, if a subject is about the 9mm Walther PPQ M1 and that has been mentioned, it is easier to just say "pistol" in a discussion, instead of repeating "9mm Walther PPQ M1" over and over. But although that pistol could be a weapon, it isn't a weapon by default, and probably should not be called a weapon unless its use as a weapon is important to know. For example, if the pistol mentioned above is used in a self-defense scenario and there is a discussion about that, then calling it a weapon would be correct and appropriate.
 
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If the discussion does not involve injuring, defeating, or destroying, then it is inappropriate to use the term weapon.
Perhaps that's the difference. All of my firearms are for either hunting or fighting. As such, any discussion about them is in some way related to injuring, defeating or destroying.

Anyway, to each their own. I don't put too much thought into it as long as both parties in a discussion know how the other is defining their terms. :thumbup:
 
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Pre-Revolutionary War assault gun.
 
Well, that brings up the issue of whether an acronym has more than one valid meaning within the same context (gun world). I think [C]arrying a [C]oncealed [W]eapon wins the debate, trendy abuses of the language notwithstanding..
Most times I don't even bother to finish reading comments with acronyms. If what ever clap trap they are spewing isn't important enough to spell out, it sure isn't worth my time reading and interpreting.
 
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