tlhelmer
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Bushy M-4
and a Glock 35
and a Glock 35
What in God's name would you do?
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Mark Tyson
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This reminds me of Kim Du Toit's "crossing the wilderness".
Primary concerns on this trip would be roving Indian bands, Anglo or Mexican bandits, and taking game for food. Weapons need to be durable and powerful enough to kill bear, moose or bison.
I'd take a Thompson Contender and an M1 Garand both in 30-06. The pistol would be merely a back up in case I lose the rifle. The 30-06 will take any beast in North America with proper shot placement and ammo is fairly easy to carry.
Primary concerns on this trip would be roving Indian bands, Anglo or Mexican bandits, and taking game for food. Weapons need to be durable and powerful enough to kill bear, moose or bison.
I'd take a Thompson Contender and an M1 Garand both in 30-06. The pistol would be merely a back up in case I lose the rifle. The 30-06 will take any beast in North America with proper shot placement and ammo is fairly easy to carry.
45King
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A 1911 and an M1A Scout.
I'd like to see what a saddle scabbard for an M1A w/20 rd. mag looks like....
I'd like to see what a saddle scabbard for an M1A w/20 rd. mag looks like....
cslinger
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Well basically I would probably take the most durable/forget about maintaining them pieces I have.
My VEPR II and probably my Ruger GP100 3inch.
Both of these would be used for self defense primarily and I would make sure to have a couple of 75 round drums with me just to see if a gatlinggun would have made a difference at Little Big Horn.
For hunting I would simply buy a period piece with period ammo and I am sure I would do just fine.
Now the most import thing is I would want to travel with the rest of you since, lets be honest, no matter how well armed you are a lone rider in the desert is probably gonna be dead from something. I mean even if you were Joe Survivalist and armed to the teeth you would have to sleep.
Now all of us together in a wagon train. Heck we would have our own country.
My VEPR II and probably my Ruger GP100 3inch.
Both of these would be used for self defense primarily and I would make sure to have a couple of 75 round drums with me just to see if a gatlinggun would have made a difference at Little Big Horn.
For hunting I would simply buy a period piece with period ammo and I am sure I would do just fine.
Now the most import thing is I would want to travel with the rest of you since, lets be honest, no matter how well armed you are a lone rider in the desert is probably gonna be dead from something. I mean even if you were Joe Survivalist and armed to the teeth you would have to sleep.
Now all of us together in a wagon train. Heck we would have our own country.
kannonfyre
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Glock-17 with AMLMAP*
M-16A2 with AMLMAP
A good machete and Strider fixed blade.
*As Many Loaded Magazines As Possible
M-16A2 with AMLMAP
A good machete and Strider fixed blade.
*As Many Loaded Magazines As Possible
cslinger
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Funny, I would have no desire to actually change history but I have often wondered things like what difference would one trained man with an AR-15 and say a combat load of ammo have made at say Bunker/Breeds Hill, Little Big Horn, The Battle of Gettysburg.
It's easy to think that that one person/firearm could make a pretty big difference but when you think of how un-predictable war is all it would take is one stray mini-ball or arrow and it may not make a difference at all.
It's easy to think that that one person/firearm could make a pretty big difference but when you think of how un-predictable war is all it would take is one stray mini-ball or arrow and it may not make a difference at all.
Brian Williams
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Marlin 1894 and Ruger Old model both in 357
I would take my Marlin 1894 with a Marbles taang sight and a Ruger Old model blackhawk both in 357. These are simple weapons and anything that broke could be made or fixed by just about any good blacksmith. Having the same ammo would mean reloading would be easier, a Lee 310 tong tool would resize cases, size bullets, deprime and reprime, seat bullets. With a four cavity mold with 4 different cavities, a 180 gr FN, 158 gr SWC, 140 gr RN and 147 WC, would cover just about any situation. Powder could be suplanted with the old stand by of fffg, the only problem would be maintaining a supply of primers. I figure about 200 rounds, a pound of 2400 and a pound of 231, 10,000 primers and some pre cast bullets with gaschecks. You would also need a small pot and ladle.
I would like to see your fast and smooth AR run after about 10 rounds of blackpowder.........
I would take my Marlin 1894 with a Marbles taang sight and a Ruger Old model blackhawk both in 357. These are simple weapons and anything that broke could be made or fixed by just about any good blacksmith. Having the same ammo would mean reloading would be easier, a Lee 310 tong tool would resize cases, size bullets, deprime and reprime, seat bullets. With a four cavity mold with 4 different cavities, a 180 gr FN, 158 gr SWC, 140 gr RN and 147 WC, would cover just about any situation. Powder could be suplanted with the old stand by of fffg, the only problem would be maintaining a supply of primers. I figure about 200 rounds, a pound of 2400 and a pound of 231, 10,000 primers and some pre cast bullets with gaschecks. You would also need a small pot and ladle.
I would like to see your fast and smooth AR run after about 10 rounds of blackpowder.........
Kinsman
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I'll need my old model Blackhawk .44- that will do most anything.
But I'll have my M1a there for the long stuff.
And I'll be on the lookout for a friendly wagon train.
But I'll have my M1a there for the long stuff.
And I'll be on the lookout for a friendly wagon train.
Accurized M14 with ACOG scope. S&W 686 stainless with 6" barrel.
First thing I'd do is go to the patent office and file for every perfected innovation in the design of the revolver. Then I'd sell the S&W 686 for an incredible amount of money.
With the proceeds, I'd hire Davey Crockett to guide me across the country.
No way in the world do I believe that I have enough woodcraft/survival skills to cross the untamed continent just because I had an automatic rifle.
First thing I'd do is go to the patent office and file for every perfected innovation in the design of the revolver. Then I'd sell the S&W 686 for an incredible amount of money.
With the proceeds, I'd hire Davey Crockett to guide me across the country.
No way in the world do I believe that I have enough woodcraft/survival skills to cross the untamed continent just because I had an automatic rifle.
natedog
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Handgun: 10mm Glock with a bunch of hi-caps
Rifle: Mini-14, with Ultimak rail and Aimpoint red dot sight, a bunch of original Ruger 30 round mags, folding stock, and GunKote over the whole thing.
Rifle: Mini-14, with Ultimak rail and Aimpoint red dot sight, a bunch of original Ruger 30 round mags, folding stock, and GunKote over the whole thing.
John Forsyth
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Rifle: M1 Garand
Pistol: S&W M28 or a Colt 1911A1
Pistol: S&W M28 or a Colt 1911A1
spacemanspiff
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i have two sets of answers....
the first is most practical (imho): a ruger .357mag handgun, and .357mag lever action rifle. say you could load up with 500 total rounds, and split that between two different calibers? i'd rather have a larger supply of one caliber.
my second reply is that i'd like my kimber tle ii, and my mauser.
does it matter if i have a different name for God than the majority?
the first is most practical (imho): a ruger .357mag handgun, and .357mag lever action rifle. say you could load up with 500 total rounds, and split that between two different calibers? i'd rather have a larger supply of one caliber.
my second reply is that i'd like my kimber tle ii, and my mauser.
does it matter if i have a different name for God than the majority?
BerettaNut92
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You guys can't bring 75 round drums to California! I'd take a speargun because in 1840 I'd be coming to California in a boat (and a laundry machine to make my life easier when I get here )
OK seriously probably an HK91 with 20 round magazines, Aimpoint and night vision (for whacking things at night). Pistol...USP Expert .45.
Probably gotta kill something bigger than a coyote hence the .308/.45 over my usual .223/9mm preference.
I'd take a speargun because in 1840 I'd be coming to California in a boat (and a laundry machine to make my life easier when I get here )OK seriously probably an HK91 with 20 round magazines, Aimpoint and night vision (for whacking things at night). Pistol...USP Expert .45.
Probably gotta kill something bigger than a coyote hence the .308/.45 over my usual .223/9mm preference.
ReadyontheRight
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Rifle -- AR15 w/ a nice scope -- .223 because you can carry more rounds than .308 or 30-06.
Pistol -- 1911 .45 ACP for a little knock-down power.
Pistol -- 1911 .45 ACP for a little knock-down power.
oldfart
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Since you've specified the year as 1840 I think whatever weapons I take probably won't have repair facilities along the way. It might be best to carry something that is utterly reliable and has very few parts.
I'd go with a good bolt-action rifle and a revolver. Those would both be more than adequate for defense against the indians of that time and for hunting too.
I'd go with a good bolt-action rifle and a revolver. Those would both be more than adequate for defense against the indians of that time and for hunting too.
JeepDriver
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Rifle:
Springfield M1A with plenty of 20 round mags
Hand gun:
Hard choice, either my G17 with as mant 17+2 mags as I can carry
*or*
My GP100 (there is just something about that gun)
I can't make up my mind which one to pick.
Can my 228 come along as well?
Springfield M1A with plenty of 20 round mags
Hand gun:
Hard choice, either my G17 with as mant 17+2 mags as I can carry
*or*
My GP100 (there is just something about that gun)
I can't make up my mind which one to pick.
Can my 228 come along as well?
45R
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Rifle: M1A with lots of mags
Pistol: 1911, Sig 226 or hummm MP5PDW
Knife: Strider or Benchmade
Pistol: 1911, Sig 226 or hummm MP5PDW
Knife: Strider or Benchmade
Dave Markowitz
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Rifle: No.4 Mk.I Lee-Enfield with as many JSP rounds in stripper clips as I can carry.
Handgun: Stainless Ruger Super Single Six in .22 Mag. Same ballistics as a .22 LR rifle.
Both of these are simple, reliable, and practical. The Lee-Enfield is for protection and big game. The Ruger is for small game/birds.
Cutlery: Becker Combat/Utility 7, Gerber Mulitplier, Benchmade Griptilian, and a hatchet.
Handgun: Stainless Ruger Super Single Six in .22 Mag. Same ballistics as a .22 LR rifle.
Both of these are simple, reliable, and practical. The Lee-Enfield is for protection and big game. The Ruger is for small game/birds.
Cutlery: Becker Combat/Utility 7, Gerber Mulitplier, Benchmade Griptilian, and a hatchet.
The year is 1840. Colonel Crockett was killed in the Battle of the Alamo in Spring of 1836.
That said, I'd take my old M700 .30-06, and my Colt's Python. Small game with the .357, big game with the rifle, and keeping the peace with both.
Mannlicher
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Its hard to get into this thread. It would make a lot more sense if you asked what period guns, and why. Of course, not many know what was available then.
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M1 & 1911 and Clamor's for setting up a parameter at camp. Smallpox vaccine Penicillin etc and camcorder.
About as small a caliber as I would want in Grizzly Country and still be useful in social situations that required heavy volume of fire.
After arriving in California, I would find Stutters Mill, do a little prospecting and then head south and get into politics.
About as small a caliber as I would want in Grizzly Country and still be useful in social situations that required heavy volume of fire.
After arriving in California, I would find Stutters Mill, do a little prospecting and then head south and get into politics.
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