What is a possible solution?

[Eric F]

So with recent School shootings and such, What is a realistic solution to help prevent this from hapening again?

Simply arming a campus may help but I do not see this as a solution. I have been to a few colledges where you would be hard pressed to find some one 21 or older not counting staff. Imagine the chaos of Le pulling up to a campus and seeing dozens of students with guns. Personaly I think this would complicate the situation some.

Any thoughts or Ideas?

 

[jakemccoy]

This thread is almost a duplicate of this thread:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=340290

You're basically saying that you don't like CCW on campus, but you fail to provide Plan B. I conclude that you are OK with the current system if you cannot even present a rough draft of a Plan B. This issue has been with us for years before the NIU incident. So, you've had plenty of time to write a rough draft of Plan B. I cannot pass you in this course, sorry.

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

There isn't a realistic solution to stop this from happening again. It will happen again.

 

[Eric F]

This thread is almost a duplicate of this thread:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=340290

Ok sorry I did not notice that thread. Nor did I notice that thread was about a solution.

You're basically saying that you don't like CCW on campus

Wrong sir you have made a false conclusion to my post. I do indeed suport legal carry for all.

but you fail to provide Plan B. I conclude that you are OK with the current system if you cannot even present a rough draft of a Plan B.

I fail to provide any plan. Thats why I started the thread.

This issue has been with us for years before the NIU incident. So, you've had plenty of time to write a rough draft of Plan B. I cannot pass you in this course, sorry.

Really, I can only recall a few other colledge campus shootings. I never really thought about "plan B" because it has not been an issue in my life until now. I do not ask for a pass or fail from you or any one else.
Last,

sorry.

You should be for being rude and unhelpful to the topic at hand.

 

[ilbob]

There isn't a realistic solution to stop this from happening again. It will happen again.

and the next time it might be more organized. i fully expect to see an Islamic attack on a school some time in the near future. probably not before the election. they are pulling for Obama to win, and an attack would remind Americans why we can't afford to have an Obama or Clinton in office right about now.

but after the election, its a strong possibility.

 

[cslinger]

My personal take is the first step is to stop medicating every little kid the minute he acts like a little kid. Seems like this trend started about 15 years ago or so and almost every one of these shootings is due to some over or under medicated individual.

I think being so quick to medicate is causing lots of harm and we are starting to reap what we have sown.

I also feel that the entertainmentization of the news just feeds these people.

Yes I realize entertainmentization is not a real word but I like it.

 

[Zangetsu]

As a student at an academic institution, I think allowing us to be armed would be the best way to go about it. You will never be able to control the actions of other people (especially crazed lunatics who only want to kill as many people as possible before killing themselves), so what you should do instead is give as many options as possible to the people who might be attacked, and part of that is allowing them to provide adequate defense for themselves, be that an armed guard or a CCW. I mean, this tragedy lasted only what, 29 seconds? If someone else had a gun, it would have been over in 5, maybe 10, and probably would have resulted in less injury and loss of life.

 

[Harvster]

This is silly. You can't prevent things like this.

L _ C K. I'd like to buy a vowel Pat. Is there an O.

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

Uh, wow. I was just saying there was no realistic way to stop every screwed up kid from shooting up a school We might be able to mitigate it, but eliminating it seems the subject of fantasy. It's a pretty big jump from that to Islamic fundementalists waiting on attacking a school until after the election son Obama wins.

I guess it's pretty hard to discuss something these days without throwing Islamic terrorists and/or Ombama/Clinton in the mix. "Hey honey, what do you want on the pizza tonight?" "Best get some sausage on their in case them Muslims terrists try to steal it. They won't eat it then. Get it with extra cheese too, might as well have it now before Hitlery Clinton tries to ban cheese."

 

[jakemccoy]

Eric, you sound like you'd just rather argue. I'm not participating.

Here's a short list of school related attacks...

Bath School disaster - May 18, 1927
Thurston High School shooting - May 20, 1998
Dawson College shooting - September 13, 2006
Platte Canyon High School shooting - September 27, 2006
Amish school shooting - October 2, 2006
Virginia Tech massacre - April 16, 2007
Jokela school shooting - November 7, 2007
Northern Illinois University shooting - February 14, 2008

Here's a long list of school related attacks...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_related_attacks

Read the whole thing. It's daunting.

This issue has been with us for awhile. Provide a rough draft of Plan B, and I'll review it and maybe provide input.

 

[bensdad]

Imagine the chaos of Le pulling up to a campus and seeing dozens of students with guns.

If there are dozens of students (licensed CC, I assume?), then the threat will be neutralized by the time LE get there.

You want a solution? There it is. You want a utopian solution, where nothing bad ever happens again? Move to Venezuela. The gov. takes care of everything and everyone is safe and happy.

I'm sorry for being a little nasty, but your post begins with a veiled attempt (o.k., not so veiled) to discredit CCW on college campuses.

 

[Eric F]

This is silly. You can't prevent things like this.

Where as I agree you can not 100% prevent everything you can take preventitive measures. I have there fore adjusted the OP to try to clear up the confusion.

 

[romma]

Lower the age to 18 to carry...

 

[Lupinus]

You can't stop it any more then you can stop theft. Schools are actually pretty safe from things like this, it just gets a ton of press when it happens.

What we can do is minimize the damage, and that means neutralizing the threat ASAP. The most effective way to do this is to put as many good guys with the ability to stop the gunman as possible. And the most effective way for this is CCW on campus.

 

[Eric F]

Ok folks Really I am pro carry I did not mean to give you folks the Idea that I am anti ccw on colledges. I was just thinking that we could talk about other options and stuff. What a rough crowd. And Jakemccoy I am fully aware of the high school and other school shootings I am talking about colledges here.

 

[gbran]

Simply arming a campus may help but I do not see this as a solution.

When was the last time you heard of a mass shooting at a gun range, police station or military post?

The true crazies are sane enough to pick a gun-free zone for their mayhem.

 

[Larry Ashcraft]

Excessive jumping to conclusions doesn't solve any problems or answer any questions, folks.