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What is a safe distance to shoot exploding targets from?

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  1. Jordan85

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    I am going to my buddy's farm this weekend to shoot and am really excited b/c at my local ranges I can only shoot paper. I don't have a lot of money to spend on targets, but I've got a lot of good cheap ideas already. But I really want to shoot some exploding stuff.

    I've got some ideas for some cheap bangs, like a candle next to an aerosol can (hope its not windy), but we will only be shooting handguns and maybe one .22 rifle, and I am worried about the shrapnel from the can. And I would not feel comfortable filling a bottle w/ gas and putting it next to a lit flame.

    My question is, what is a safe distance to shoot at these makeshift targets from?

    I would really like to see some things go BANG!!! but more so I would prefer to come back this weekend in the same condition I left.....
     
  2. ColinthePilot

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    I would go with some less, shall we say, pyrotechnic targets, especially at handgun ranges.
     
  3. cassandrasdaddy

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    when you figure a safe distance double it consider tannerite and when things go boom you can never be too far away a 22 rifle barely gets me far enough
     
  4. HK G3

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    You really ought to be shooting from a trench with some sort of shield if you want to blow something up.

    Just watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLNs-IpOE1w about 2:10 in

    And a lot of it has to do with the explosives being used.
     
  5. GlowinPontiac

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    put a baloon with a small twig inside it over the threads of a small propane tank and push the nozzle open with the twig to fill the baloon with propane.

    shoot these next to the candle or use tracer rounds.

    theyll make a nice yet not too big fireball and wont throw shrapnel everywhere.
     
  6. ArchAngelCD

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    Jordan85,
    Did you see my suggestion of water bottles in your other thread? If not...

    Take along a bunch of used 16oz water bottles. Fill them with colored water which can be colored with cheap food coloring from the market. (the outline of a clear plastic bottle is hard to see without the coloring) Cap the bottle of course and then use a fairly heavy cord to hang them from a low branch on a tree. With a .22 rifle they are fairly easy to hit but since they are only a few inches wide they are challenging to hit with a handgun from 15 or more yards out. I can tell you they are a lot of fun to shoot at. Well, not as much fun as exploding targets but fun none the less.
     
  7. Jordan85

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    Yes, I did. And thank you. I plan on it.

    I'm also planning on getting some soda cans to shake up, whatever I see that looks like fun at wally world/the dollar store, blocks of ice.

    I just kinda wanted to see an explosion, but I guess an exploding beer or shaving can is about the limits of safe explosions w/in handgun range
     
  8. GlowinPontiac

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    old beer thats been baking out in the sun and well shaken makes a great substitute for clays.
     
  9. Kind of Blued

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    Why is it that the thread about blowing sh*t up has the most posts with atrocious use of punctuation (or the lack there of)?

    Just don't start a wildfire and burn down your buddy's farm.

    Unless, of course, you hit the propane tank, which is probably four or five inches below the balloon.
     
  10. ArchAngelCD

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    I know you said money is tight but I came across these a few months ago and thought you might be interested. They do cost a bit of money but they look like fun. The company is True Shot, take a look... :evil:
     
  11. Jordan85

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    well I leave tomorrow, so I wouldn't be able to order them. Do you know if any national retailers carry them??
     
  12. Viking6

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    Can I have all your nice stuff when you blow yourself up?
     
  13. 1911NM

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    Watched the video, and not only way too dangerous, but how do you explain something like that to your insurance company?
     
  14. Zoogster

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    There is no real flat answer. The type of and amount of "explosive" makes a big difference, as well as the container.

    I have seen aerosol cans that have been punctured, and rather than explode the new hole acts as a mechanism for propulsion, launching the can or tank at incredible speeds in a random direction, sometimes flying in a circle.
    A can traveling at 100 miles per hour that impacts someone's skull could cause serious injury or death.

    Here is an example of some shooting a propane tank in a similar fashion to what you mention:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CmewjjIBwY
    If that had gone into the direction of someone it could have caused serious injury.
    Well you may be thinking "well that was a propane tank, I am talking about small cans" but I assure you they can be just as if not more dangerous.
    I saw a butane can explode once and the bottom blew off and launched the can at a much higher speed head first into a tree, and was embeded into it fairly deep (someone tossed it in a camp fire) and I have no doubt it could have killed someone.
    I remember someone tossing some paint cans into a fire to intentionaly cause an explosion and having boiling flaming liquid paint thrown all around catching brush on fire and narrowly missing causing serious burns and injuries from the burning paint/ shrapnel to people that were warned and had backed far away.
    I ran around putting spot fires out for like 20 minutes while letting the individual figure out how he was going to explain to some other people that they got paint and burns all over thier belongings at the campsite.

    If someone else is injured by a makeshift explosive you create, even accidently and they are a willing participant, you can be found guilty of serious crimes many places. Those crimes may not only get you into some serious trouble, but will ban you from firearm ownership as well as a felon.

    In CA for example it would be the crime of "Exploding a destructive device or any explosive causing great bodily injury."
    A serious felony, and it does not matter if it was a joke, people goofing around, and nobody wants to press charges as you are just friends who had an accident. It is a serious crime and you will liekly be prosecuted.

    12301. (a) The term "destructive device," as used in this chapter,
    shall include any of the following weapons:
    (1) Any projectile containing any explosive or incendiary material
    or any other chemical substance, including, but not limited to, that
    which is commonly known as tracer or incendiary ammunition, except
    tracer ammunition manufactured for use in shotguns.

    ... (5) Any breakable container which contains a flammable liquid with
    a flashpoint of 150 degrees Fahrenheit or less and has a wick or
    similar device capable of being ignited, other than a device which is
    commercially manufactured primarily for the purpose of illumination.

    (6) Any sealed device containing dry ice (CO2) or other chemically
    reactive substances assembled for the purpose of causing an
    explosion by a chemical reaction.

    (b) The term "explosive," as used in this chapter, shall mean any
    explosive defined in Section 12000 of the Health and Safety Code.


    (part of section 12000 of Health and Safety code)
    (d) Any material designated as an explosive by the State Fire
    Marshal. The designation shall be made pursuant to the
    classification standards established by the United States Department
    of Transportation.
    The State Fire Marshal shall adopt regulations in
    accordance with the Government Code to establish procedures for the
    classification and designation of explosive materials or explosive
    devices that are not under the jurisdiction of the United States
    Department of Transportation pursuant to provisions of Section 841 of
    Title 18 of the United States Code and published pursuant to Section
    555.23 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations that define
    explosives.




    It would also give you one or two strikes under CA three strikes laws (which means you get an increased mandatory sentence I believe) and possession of a firearm at a later date would be a third strike, subjecting you to life in prison.
    Think about that.

    It does not even matter if you intended to cause harm or not, that is a seperate crime.


    12309. Every person who willfully and maliciously explodes or
    ignites any destructive device or any explosive which causes bodily
    injury to any person is guilty of a felony, and shall be punished by
    imprisonment in the state prison for a period of five, seven, or nine
    years.

    12310. (a) Every person who willfully and maliciously explodes or
    ignites any destructive device or any explosive which causes the
    death of any person is guilty of a felony, and shall be punished by
    imprisonment in the state prison for life without the possibility of
    parole.
    (b) Every person who willfully and maliciously explodes or ignites
    any destructive device or any explosive which causes mayhem or great
    bodily injury to any person is guilty of a felony, and shall be
    punished by imprisonment in the state prison for life.


    12312. Every person who possesses any substance, material, or any
    combination of substances or materials, with the intent to make any
    destructive device or any explosive without first obtaining a valid
    permit to make such destructive device or explosive, is guilty of a
    felony, and is punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for
    two, three, or four years.


    12311. No person convicted of a violation of this chapter shall be
    granted probation, and the execution of the sentence imposed upon
    such person shall not be suspended by the court.


    If you are found guilty of any of several offenses the judge's hands are tied and even if he understands you were just out having fun. He is unable to suspend or reduce the sentence.
     
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  15. RKBABob

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    Oh, heck, about 5 feet ought to be far enough...

    now hold my beer and watch this! :neener:

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  16. Jordan85

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    lol. Yeah i think a chemical reaction of carbonated liquid under pressure punctured is all the explosion I need after watching some of those videos
     
  17. Jordan85

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    lol. Yeah i think a chemical reaction of carbonated liquid under pressure punctured is all the explosion I need after watching some of those videos
     
  18. nyggis

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    Shoot at beer.... What a waste!!!
    Cheers!!!!
     
  19. Black Raven

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    I would drop any idea of "blowing things up" in this manner. I spent 4 years with a Naval CRT/EOD unit even in a controlled enviroment like a blast range accidents still happen. The fact that I am almost certain wherever you live these actions would be illegal. I would go with an earlier idea to use a carbonated can of something or other.
    Having said that depending on your states fireworks laws and your marksmenship ability you could try tipping the wicks of 'legal' fireworks with six or 8 strike anywhere match heads and super glue or epoxy.
    if you want to chance it and again I advise against this but when I was a stupid kid we used to take a handful of these same match head and super glued then to the botton ofareosol hairspray cans completley covering the bottom aiming the spray end away from you and shooting at the bottom which would be toward you. this does not explode 'usauly' but create a little rocket be sure there is a back stop like a hill or sandbags.
    shoot from 100ft 0r more away the backstop within 75 foot behind it
    oh yeah BE ****ING CAREFUL!!!
     
  20. MutinousDoug

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    There was a Youtube video a year or so back of some yahoos shooting at a spare tire at 25-50yds, which ruptures on impact and blew a pretty large piece of the aluminum wheel back at the shooters. Much to their amusement, since none of them were struck by that debris or any other, that time. Whether that was fortunate in the long run is open to debate as far as I'm concerned.
     
  21. Guy

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    Balloons on remote control cars are fun bang and they move.

    Compressed gas not so good my cuz shot a small propane tank and it flew bout 50meters across camp(not cool).

    Have fun:what:
     
  22. hardpack101

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    If anyone would like to purchase some Tannerite I'm a distributor for the targets. Just get ahold of me [email protected] I've got some good deals!!
     
  23. Killermonkey21

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    Bah! Tannerite! What a waste!

    What you really need to do is shoot BOOMERITE!

    The Boomershoot is an annual precision long range rifle shoot in North Central Idaho.

    www.Boomershoot.org

    The booms are a little bigger ;)

    Carry on.
     
  24. M60

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    I recommend staying just far enough away so that no harm will come to you.

    [/sarc]

    -Mark.
     
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