What is Going on With Randy Weaver?

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What is going on with Randy Weaver? Does he actually believe this stuff? Has anyone listened to him, or even talked with him? Is this a fraud, or was he actually saying such things? I am interested to hear all about it.

Mike Clark [email protected] wrote:

Randy Weaver of RUBY RIDGE IDAHO fame was on American Voices Shortwave 6.950 Shortwave Sunday night. Randy stated that his WIFE VICKIE had been shot RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES by FBI ASSASSIN LON HORIUCHI at their home in Idaho.. Well, I think everybody knows about that. Weaver stated that ALL OF VICKIE WEAVER’S FINGERS were CUT OFF OF HER HANDS WITH A BOLT CUTTER by FBI ASSASSINS who HAVE SINCE TURNED VICKIE’S FINGERS INTO KEY CHAINS and NECKLACES. I presume they TOOK HER THUMBS ALSO. I dont KNOW ANATOMICALLY SPEAKING that if A THUMB IS CATEGORIZED AS A FINGER OR NOT. BY the way, DAVID KORESH’S SKULL is now the PAPER WEIGHT for THE CHIEF BATF OFFICERS DESK. RANDY WEAVER made this incredible statement. Let me see if I can rephrase it correctly. Mr. WEAVER stated that these FBI ASSASINS and FEDERAL MARSHALLS are not HUMAN BEINGS AT ALL. But are in FACT ALIENS. The TALK SHOW HOST didnt ASK MR. WEAVER what he meant by that statement. So I guess the actual meaning of the statement WILL HAVE TO REMAIN RHETORICAL.
 
This information has no value because because its not sworn testimony, subect to cross examination. ;)
 
Civil liability. You know how much the gubmint would be paying if the FBI dudes were running around with Vicki Weaver's fingers on a necklace? Randy Weaver's daughters would each collect another million, perhaps a million per finger. As for Koresh's Skull being a paperweight, I doubt that too. Weaver has every right to be pissed, but when stories are outlandish, you've got to wonder about the credibility.
 
Really? What was he like before Ruby Ridge and why?
He was a fruitcake racist extremist. His wife was even fruitier by a factor of 2 or 3.

Why? Who knows? My guess would be defective brain tissue.

The good news is that they both moved out into the middle of nowhere, and were a danger to absolutely no one.

The bad news is that JBTs went out to try to scare them into ratting out other (potentially dangerous) racist fruitloops.

The worst news is that scumbags like Lon Horiuchi got away with murder before all was said and done.
 
So somebody who wants to live by themselves is automatically a looney and a racist? Weaver was a separatist not a racist. He would not go along with the fibbies :scrutiny: when they asked him to spy on the aryan brotherhood group that was located in the area he chose to live in. So these same agencies sent an agent who finally managed to get him to saw a few inches off the end of a shotgun. And things went downhill from there. The key here is to remember that even paraniods have real enemies - and in Weaver's case they proved that he did. :banghead:
 
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Aliens?

Hmmm, at least that would explain why they
had to shoot the dog,as we know from sci fi movies,
dogs know who is human who is not!
Man that pissed me off,shooting the boys dog!
It was a mean nasty thing to do.
Weavers son was walking the dog on his dads
property a gazillion miles from anyone
and they shoot his dog!
Plain nasty jerks...or Aliens!
who knows...
 
This information has no value because because its not sworn testimony, subect to cross examination.

You forgot that it can also have value if contained in a gov't report analyzing alleged "mistakes" made by a gov't agency, but only if said agency/branch is the one doing the report.
 
FWIW, Blain, they're not aliens, either. ;)

Weaver has always been a loonie. He lived in a plywood and tarpaper shack in the woods, and had a separate shed on the property for the womenfolk to stay in during that time of the month. He probably thought aliens were conspiring with mud people in the Zionist occupation government to institute the new world order.

You know what? None of that is against the law, especially if you want to go do it miles from nowhere. In case the history textbooks don't mention it anymore, remember that America was crawling with heavily-armed racist, sexist, compound-dwelling religious lunatics back in the 17th century. We call them "Pilgrims" now. ;)
 
There's no difference between a "separatist" and a "racist" in Weaver's case. He was a separatist because he was a racist. He believed in Christian Identity, more or less, which means he thought northern European white folks were the original tribes of Israel and everyone else was a mud person.

He lived in that shack in the woods because he was certain the world was ending--several times. Each time it didn't end, he and Vickie studied the matter and revised the date a few years. They were sure a massive highway was being built from Canada into the U.S. to carry an invasion from Canada.

On the other hand, if you were already a little paranoid and then the government did in fact murder your child and your wife, then lay siege to the rest of your family, over a five-dollar tax issue . . . . . well, is it any wonder he got even more paranoid? Who wouldn't?
 
There's no difference between a "separatist" and a "racist" in Weaver's case. He was a separatist because he was a racist.

If there's got to be racists, then the separatist racists are the best kind. I fully support their right to live by themselves and not causing trouble.

Now, if we could only get Jesse Jackson, Farrakhan, and the rest of the racists to find plots of their own.
 
I wish I could make my wife live in a separate shack during "that time of the month" ;)

On a more serious note, what happened to Randy Weaver and his family, crazy or not, was state sanctioned murder, and it will doubtless happen again.

The guy was on a secluded ridge line, with his young family. How could the guy in charge come away with a dead unarmed mother, a man shot in his back who was not an immediate threat to anyone, and not face severe consequences for his actions. Contain and defuse, what would have been so difficult about that ? It is difficult, even during the most rational analysis of what happened, to conclude that there was not an open desire to kill the adults on that ridge, regardless of circumstance.

I think there is a fear in government that if you are hard on the actions of the police or federal authorities, then they may begin to lose their commitment to their work, suffer staffing problems, and generally fall apart. I have seen this attitude, especially in the courts in other countries, and I find it to be a very dangerous attitude for any system to adopt.
 
blain, I concluded long ago that Weaver wasn't the brightest star in the heavens. I watched the hearings, of course...But one can't be very smart if he lets himself be persuaded to chop a shotgun barrel. After all, the hardware stores are full of hacksaws. A half-bright guy would ask, "Why me?"

Okay. Here's a guy with over $3 mil tax-free, and the idol of a bunch of lunatics. They're gonna be all over him like stink on whatzit, telling him what he wants to hear, and pushing their own idiocies.

Sorta like high-paid sports stars and movie folks, who ain't all that bright, either.

When you run across this sort of weird stuff, just treat it like "Cactus Jack" Garner's view of being Vice-President: "It ain't worth a bucket of warm spit."

:), Art
 
Hey didnt some US marshall die in this incident...a guy just doing his job, wife and kids..

Heck with all the talk about Randy Weaver I plumb forgot..

WildwheresmyalienreppellentAlaska
 
Hey didnt some US marshall die in this incident.
Was that before or after a little boy was shot in the back? I keep forgetting and accounts vary...

In Weaver's book, he says something along the lines of "hating people who have never done anything to you just because their skin color is different is ignorant." Perhaps someone with a copy nearby would like to look it up? Maybe that's just something an editor spliced in to make him seem a little less of a maniac... I don't know. Or care.

He's not the kind of guy I'd like to spend time around, but also not evil enough for me to want to hire a bunch of armed men to shoot at.

-Corafedslifeismoreimportantthanamerecitizensyouknowdex

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guy had his family wasted an his dog shot over a 1/2 inch of tubing.

hes flipped out an lost it! straight jacket canidate if you ask me.

wow so if i wanna move to the far reagions of america to escape idiot im a racist seperatist?

hey the buss leaves at 1300. be on it with your gear
 
You know, I never could figure out why Weaver would have stooped so low as to cut the barrel of a shotgun for ANYONE. The action would take all of 30 seconds and a few swipes with a file. Its not like you need a precision cut crown on a shotgun. :rolleyes: What, are the guys asking him to do the cutting COMPLETE INCOMPETENT BOOBS ! ????:scrutiny:

That would have been MY first clue. :rolleyes:

I'm not sayin' Weaver was very bright. And he did choose the company he kept.
 
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