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What is the best handgun that shoots 7.62x25?

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Birdmang, Sep 6, 2009.

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  1. Birdmang

    Birdmang Member

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    What is the best handgun that shoots 7.62x25?


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  2. Mp7

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    If you search THR for this you will find
    that the TT33 and the CZ52 are the most
    common models.

    From what i read.. the TT has a lead
    over the CZ.

    Search tt33 threads.
     
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    The 'best' and the 'most popular' are not always the same.
     
  4. Mp7

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    Hey MCB!

    Is that yours?

    If so... do u use Surplus in it?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.63x25mm_Mauser

    The 7.63 mm Mauser cartridge was the basis for the 7.62x25mm Tokarev round adopted by the Soviet Union. Although the case dimensions of the two cartridges are nearly identical, the 7.62 mm Tokarev has a stronger powder charge and is not suited for use in C96 pistols or other firearms chambered for 7.63 mm Mauser. However, the 7.63 mm Mauser could be used in firearms chambered for the 7.62 mm Tokarev.
     
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    I have this one for a few years. I avoid surplus because it is possible to get 7.62X25 that was loaded for machine gun. To hot for this old gal, it can damage the bolt stop. This one is in very good shape with original blue but not particularly rare. It's a wartime commercial made in 1915.

    There are a lot of these floating around that can be had in the 400-500 dollar range. They well not have matching numbers, maybe the bore is past it's prime but they are still good shooters.
     
  6. justashooter in pa

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    and they will have bent bolts and hammered bolt stops from shooting surp tokarev ammo.
     
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    MBC...

    So u are not using 7.62x25 but the mauser cartridge?
     
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    Both .30 Mauser and 7.63X25 seem to be readily available these days and that is what I keep on hand. I have used 7.62X25 in the past when it was all I could find, just not in this particular gun.
    7.63X25(.30 Mauser) and 7.62X25 bot use a .308 bullet, cases spec is nearly identical but the 7.62 generally runs a little hotter.

    Here is a little info on the two loads from the broomhandle forum. It boils down to some Tokarev ammo can be to hot for the broomhandle.

     
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    Cool. Thx MBC.

    You added to my useless smartass wisdom :)

    Great!
     
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    From the other threads and sites that I have researched the TT-33 are slightly better than the CZ-52's. As for the different 33's the Romanian's are better than the Polish ones for accuracy. Not too sure about the Yugo's that hold 9 rounds instead of 8.
     
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    I was just thinking the other day we needed a modern pistol that fired 7.62x25. The problem with the TT-33, the CZ-52, and certainly the C96 is that they're not really...practical.
     
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    The TT-33 is one of the most "practical" pistols ever. All it does is shoot and shoot and shoot.
     
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    I've never handled a Tok, so my vote goes to the CZ52. It's a good gun as long as you don't use the hammer drop setting on the safety. I carry mine cocked and locked and don't worry. Mine has an excellent trigger and I like the style of the pistol. Even thought he safety is small, I've never had a problem swiping it off to put the gun into action. Putting the pistol on safe is another matter all together. I have to either shift my grip or use my left thumb.
    Star also made a .30 Mauser/7.62 pistol. I forget the model and don't know if many were imported. It was a nice pistol and handled like any of its brothers. If I could find one, I'd consider buying it.
     
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    I had a CZ 52. It was completely, utterly horrible in every way. It shot 1' low at 20 yards, the sharp edges cut into my hands, ergonomics are dismal and I never trusted the decocker.

    Get a TT.
     
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    My CZ52 was also a dog...very disappointing.
    The Tok carries better as a CCW...I can easily thumb cock it on the draw. I prefer the Browning operating system. Plus, the Tok has decades of use in the toughest combat conditions imaginable.
     
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    Can you shoot surplus ammo out of the tok tt33 or do you have to worry about it being too hot or a machine gun load?
     
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    That's a hotly-debated topic. The CZ52 has a stronger mechanism but weaker chamber walls than the TT33. So the argument goes back and forth. As I understand it, the CZ52 will KABOOM with ammo that would be safe in a TT. However, a steady diet of hot ammo will wear out a TT faster than a CZ (unless, you know, it's too hot and the CZ blows up in your hand)

    Now here's my question: What's the difference (if any) between a TT33 and a TTC?
     
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    My first Tok was a chinese made Vietnam bringback. Pitted, mis-matched...it had fired untold numbers of rounds before I got it. Still shot great with any ammo I tried, including the really hot chinese stuff that was available back then.
    My current Tok is a Romanian, and romanian ammo is all I have shot through it.
    I would not be afraid to load it with any 7.62x25 I found.
    The Tok has been rebarreled to 9x23...not recommended for the CZ.
     
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