What Is This?

[eddiememphis]

Posting for a friend on another forum.
He came across this thing and has no idea what it is.
I have more pictures if anyone want to see them.

It is center fire, around .40 cal, possibly .44 Russian.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Some sort of Magnum Velodog perhaps? I wouldn't want to shoot it, thats for sure!

 

[badkarmamib]

I wouldn't want to shoot it, thats for sure!

Somebody hold my beer...

 

[shoobe01]

Forget the size, check out that checkering. This is hand cut. I don't trust the metallurgy for min load BP cartridges.

Wonder if it's a copy of something (as most of the inter-war Chinese guns were) or if it was a home brew idea dreamed up from scratch.

 

[Bwana John]

Looks like a FP-Liberator, but without any stamped sheet metal (?!?)

 

[eddiememphis]

There is enough machining that I doubt it is "home made", as in a guy with some tubing and a file.

The grips look like grandpa whittled them and there are some... less than precise clearances.

I told him to send the pictures to some firearms historians to see if they have ever seen anything like it.

 

[eddiememphis]

Also, the barrel is rifled and there is a chamber cut in the breech end.

 

[The Black Prince]

I hate that my uncles books were all gotten rid of. He had books for almost every sort of gun ever made.

 

[Englishmn]

Neat, I think the spring going down the side may be the sear.
The slide with the coil spring appears to be the breech latch push forward then twist the barrel and pull barrel forward to open. The swivel on striker looks added to ease cocking.
Would like to see how the trigger works.

 

[.455_Hunter]

People have been making homemade or shopmade guns for a long time.

 

[Tilos]

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[jonnyc]

Something painful out of Pakistan???

 

[starling]

Hmmm Head scratcher. No markings anywhere. Too ugly to be French like a Delvinge. Being centerfire its more recent. Doesnt look Belgian either. Those spanner nuts are not something typically seen on pistol grips and are more common on rifle stocks. The frame looks like some sort of casting and the smaller parts look more to be hand made. The Barrel looks like it might have been reused and modified/cut for use in whomever's project this was. Possible he took a section from a junk revolver barrel and machined it down for use. Looks like a lot of the fire control mechanism is exposed which kinda points me in the direction again of it being a project.

I looked in a few of my more detailed books on obscure pistols but came up empty. Im going to take a wild guess that this was a passionate enthusiast with an obsession for vest pocket style derringers and single shots. Definitely has that Liberator or Deer Gun vibe going for it. Its certainly a neat pistol. Might even be some early attempt at a prototype but I kinda doubt it. Somebody put a lot of work into it thats for sure. I would hang onto it of course but most people try to auction stuff like this off to buy new eyephones or whatever. If it was mine and I didnt really want it I might try tracking down who made it and giving it to his family (if their is any). Hard to play detective on stuff like this without knowing much more about where it came from.

LOL.. when I saw the first picture I thought you were messing with people and it was a lighter. Thanks for the pictures. Id like to see more. Maybe there are some faint markings on it somewhere that might give a clue to country of origin. Some of the parts on that barrel look like they may have come out of a firearms manufacturing facility.

 

[eddiememphis]

 

[eddiememphis]

 

[eddiememphis]

OOps- forgot to resize the pictures.

 

[eddiememphis]

He says the spring on the right side is a safety. It blocks the hammer moving forward.

 

[Speedo66]

Hello Pakistan, although the Khyber Pass people would probably laugh at this.

Or maybe a kids metal shop project?

Did I miss what caliber it is?

 

[PistoleroWadcutterGANG]

Something to poke a belly of an amorous voyeur, a little too drunk at the burlesque show in Paris. I decided I like it.

 

[Englishmn]

Close to 44 Russian off chamber drawing.

 

[starling]

Great pictures thank you. Im sticking with my initial gut feeling that its a homemade pistol. Very neat. Im assuming that picture of it without the barrel is it being cocked. Kinda looks like a tank merged with a mushroom. Papa Smurf's daily carry?

Still reminds me of someone who had a look at a Liberator or Deer Gun and decided to have a go at it.

I hope that receiver is a steel cast and not aluminum. Looks like a casting flaw above the left grip towards the front. Also looks like the seem is splitting underneath the trigger. I have no clue what he pulled that chunk of barrel from. Doesnt look like he used a lathe on that barrel either. The muzzle section behind that gripping knob isnt very even. Im sure you guys want to try putting a round through it but I wouldnt.

Anyone remember Men In Black? The Noisy Cricket? Im calling this the "Noisy Mushroom". Be a fun little birdshot pistol. No sights so you will have to make a holosun mount for it somehow. Should hold zero if you attach it to the barrel. I dont have a holster source for you but maybe you can adapt a holster clip to those grip screws to carry appendix.

 

[Pat Riot]

When I saw it I thought it looked like something out of a “B” Sci-Fi flick.

Space Ranger Vick Dominator’s OY pistol is always tucked in his belt just in case “they” get him because his pulse rifle has run out of juice.
OY stands for “Off Yourself” and Vick Dominator would never need it because he kicked some serious alien butt in his ventures and his mission to clean up the galaxy!

 

[armoredman]

I thought a Nambu was ugly - that thing's so ugly it's cute. Whatever it is, even if it's non firing prop gun, it's nifty. Only thing I would shoot in it is a blank. A low power blank. Using a string. Seriously, that is really nifty.

 

[EMC45]

I think it's super neat. The barrel looks like an old rifle bolt.

 

[Deus Machina]

I think it's super neat. The barrel looks like an old rifle bolt.

I'm fairly certain is is, without seeing different angles to get a real bead on it. The slots in the lugs look ground in. I'm kind of betting the barrel is two pieces--either front and back pressed and/or soldered together and then cleaned up, or bored out and lined. An old BP cartridge if they barrel was scavenged from the same gun. If not, all bets are off.
This is definitely not a production piece. Fairly well designed for a garage job, at least. I'm pretty sure the spring guides are brazed on. I'd be surprised if the main portion of the body wasn't repurposed and cut from something else, probably considerably larger. Judging by that style of trigger, maybe an oiler or an early drill.
The checkering on the striker block says that either someone has a good hand with a file and a 'good enough' mentality or they tilted it 45 degrees in a vice to catch the edge of a cutting tool. Definitely a file on the... dongle? on the back.
Certainly the same person, or at least tool, that knurled the front of the barrel didn't do the rest. It's a lot harder to checker flat than knurl round.

Definitely ingenuity here, and either patience but little skill or vice versa.

Whatever it be, don't shoot it. If it's built like it looks, I wouldn't trust it to hold up to firing pressure for long. At best, your wrist would regret it. Assuming you can hang onto it.