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[Jdague12]

A friend just reacquired this rifle from his junior high school years. Early 1980’s. He says it’s a .243 but not sure of make. Says there are no markings that says manufacturer. Is this a Sturm Ruger logo? I looked up the serial number on Ruger website and it has no record of it. Might be too old for the serial number look up

 

[rust collector]

Not a Sturm Ruger product. Is there any reason you haven't included information from barrel? Where is the safety? What is the imprint on the recoil pad? Please include a picture of the bolt. We would like to help, but need more information. It may be some type of mauser design such as a Zastava, but more information would be helpful.

 

[Pat Riot]

It may be Nagoya Arsenal - Japan

Markings on Japanese Arisaka Rifles and Bayonets of World War II

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Ya, its a "sporterized" Arisaka, WW2 vintage originally. No telling what caliber its in now, though usually it will be stamped on the barrel somewhere. You may have to take the action out of the stock to find it.

These surplus actions were strong and dirt cheap after the war, so they were used for many custom builds back in the day.

 

[Jdague12]

I’m going to get with him soon to get more details. Even talking him through it, this was all he could come up with. I’m kinda expecting to find all information once I look at it. More to follow.

 

[792mauser]

The numbers and symbol on the side of the receiver are Japanese not Ruger.
I have 2½ jap rifles.
One's a rifle receiver-ed smoothbore training rifle.

 

[Bwana John]

Sporterized Japanese Arisaka, Nagoya Arsena, 1923-1945

 

[Jdague12]

Mystery rifle solved. He was correct about no visible markings on the barrel. After pulling the stock off, it’s on the bottom of the barrel, completely hidden by the stock. Winchester Model 70.

 

[gotboostvr]

Mystery rifle solved. He was correct about no visible markings on the barrel. After pulling the stock off, it’s on the bottom of the barrel, completely hidden by the stock. Winchester Model 70. View attachment 1170781View attachment 1170782

That only means the barrel itself is originally from a winchester model 70.

Winchester wouldn't install it with the stamping at the bottom, under the wood.

Someone probably used a take off barrel to tune up an old war horse. Not an uncommon practice. I had a Gew 98 with a Marlin stamped 30-06 barrel.

 

[Jim Watson]

Why ask a question and not believe the answer?

 

[Jdague12]

Great point. That makes sense because it looks nothing like the manual. Safety is along side the trigger with a screw on it and bolt is very different.

 

[Jim Watson]

Safety is along side the trigger with a screw on it

Arisaka rotating bolt sleeve safety is foreign to American users, there were several adaptations.

 

[rust collector]

It appears that a model 70 barrel was mated to an Arisaka action. I suspect that a competent gunsmith would not have hidden the chamber information, so caution is advised. The chamber dimensions may have changed in the process.

 

[Jim Watson]

I don't know if you can re-thread a Winchester barrel to fit an Arisaka action without setting it back. Which would require rechambering to stay a .243. Certainly time for a chamber cast.

This one goes back to the days when parts were uncommon but any reputable gunsmith had a lathe and could do a lot of adapting and converting.

 

[Bwana John]

Is the receiver a Type 38 or a Type 99?

 

[Jdague12]

Not even my rifle and I’d love to know it’s entire history. Even though I’ll never know it. His father traded an unknown .22 pistol for it. If the rifle could only talk.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

I wish these could talk-

Short Magazine Lee Enfield No.1 Mk3 on top and Type 99 Arisaka on bottom. Since the SMLE came from New Zealand service, there's an itty-bitty chance these two rifles shot at each other on occasion!