cuchulainn
Member
Some would limit it to those enumerated in the BoR. Others, like me, would point to the 9th Amendment and say there are many un-enumerated civil rights.
In short, my view is that a civil right is something the government cannot do to you -- as opposed entitlements that the government gives to you. Obviously, equivocation can come into play with my rough definition. We have a right to a speedy trial. Does the government "give" you a speedy trial, or does it refrain from inflicting you with long-unsettled allegations?
In any event, it might help the recent confusion over proper thread subjects if there is some consensus on THR about what constitutes a civil right.
So I propose such a discussion (without the verboten topics of religion, abortion, ect., of course). For example, someone recently started a thread on police brutality, which I would have thought was a clear-cut civil rights issue -- IMHO freedom from police brutality is a civil right. But it was closed as being OT from civil rights.
Mind you, I'm not complaining. This is not intended as a moderator-bashing thread, so don't make it that. They can shutdown any thread they see fit -- any thread for any reason -- and I won't complain. THR ain't my property, and arbitrary and capricious thread moderating is the civil right of the THR owner and his agents, the moderators.
In short, my view is that a civil right is something the government cannot do to you -- as opposed entitlements that the government gives to you. Obviously, equivocation can come into play with my rough definition. We have a right to a speedy trial. Does the government "give" you a speedy trial, or does it refrain from inflicting you with long-unsettled allegations?
In any event, it might help the recent confusion over proper thread subjects if there is some consensus on THR about what constitutes a civil right.
So I propose such a discussion (without the verboten topics of religion, abortion, ect., of course). For example, someone recently started a thread on police brutality, which I would have thought was a clear-cut civil rights issue -- IMHO freedom from police brutality is a civil right. But it was closed as being OT from civil rights.
Mind you, I'm not complaining. This is not intended as a moderator-bashing thread, so don't make it that. They can shutdown any thread they see fit -- any thread for any reason -- and I won't complain. THR ain't my property, and arbitrary and capricious thread moderating is the civil right of the THR owner and his agents, the moderators.