What "personal" rules do you have for using a home self defense gun?

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I remember reading the story in the news about the man who shot his daughter after she tried to scare him in his bedroom in the middle of the night. I don't recall the article saying how old she was. Her last words were, "I love you daddy." This may sound like anti gun drivel but sadly it actually happened.

As I recall from some talk show he was on way back in the 90's, the daughter was locked out so she along with her friend climbed through a window and that's when the man heard what he believed was an intruder.

Shooting in the dark could potentially cost you a loved one. You really should illuminate your target over just blindly firing away and hoping for the best.
 
I live alone.
Have few friends visit and never at night and they always call before visiting day or night. It's just a polite thing to do.

Anything that's moving around my place, the size of a person, is fixing to get shot.

I do have my primary HD guns equipped with laser/lights so the target will be identified when it's being shot.:)

I don't have kids but if I did, I hope I would be smarter in raising my kids than the man that shot his daughter.
 
I have succeeded in convincing my family to announce themselves when they enter a house to avoid surprising the occupants (not just my house). Seeing shadows move around in another room when you think you are alone is not a good thing for anyone. Can't imagine why they needed to be taught that, but they did. Now I hear "HI DAD, I'm home" a lot and I like that much better than having to constantly yell out "WHO'S THAT?".

I set my own standards. Killing a family member would result in me not living with myself afterwards and nothing I can think of would make them safer around me than that. No excuses. I suppose you could call that a rule?
 
Bumb in the night

Well as I have no kids, one wife :D, two dogs, all of which sleep in the same room. If something appears in my bedroom in the middle of the night it has a really good chance of getting shot. Once I have kids I am sure things will change a lot.
 
Pax:
Well, I answered most (not all) of your questions in my first post on this thread (#10 above), but I’ll go ahead and answer them again:

Who sleeps upstairs?
Me, as stated above “my bedroom is on the second (top) floor”. Everyone sleeps on the same floor.

…or may be moving around up there?
Well, I’m going to be moving some, to get from the bed to the shotgun to one of two pre-planned defensive positions, but I’m not going to be moving much. The kids, awaken like me by the dog and/or alarm, are hopefully going to be moving from their rooms to get behind me in our safe room. The flashlight pointed at the hall ceiling will allow me to positively ID the kids. The only thing above me will be the attic, and as stated above, it “requires a ladder to access”; there are no built in or pull down stair to the attic. I don’t plan on going downstairs and have the muzzle pointed at the upstairs, if that is what you are asking.

What kind of a backstop does your ceiling provide?
Not one that will stop the “buckshot I’m loaded with.” But since it is unlikely someone will sneak a ladder upstairs to be in the attic while I’m pointing the muzzle at it, the likely concern is people outside the house. And, as stated above “…missed shots that leave the house will have to go through an interior wall, the ceiling and the roof first, likely hitting joists on the way. I’m assuming…will be slowed down enough to be non- or less-lethal to anyone outside the house.”

Do you have family members who may be on the other side of the wall, if you plan to light up a wall rather than the unidentified intruder?
Yes, but I don’t plan on flashing the light at anything but the ceiling. Also, if I fail to get the kids behind me and am forced to fire, I plan to do so from a kneeling position, aiming up at the target’s chest (as stated above.) I’ve worked out the angles from our pre-planned defensive positions and know “any missed shots that go into the next room will be at ceiling level, above anyone’s head.”

Are you sure that when you are awakened from a sound sleep that you will not just reflexively point the light at the source of the sound that woke you up?
No. But to point the light/shotgun at anything I will have to get out of bed, take 3 steps to the closet, reach in and push the buttons on the lock, take it from the rack, and point it. Before I can fire I have to cycle the slide. I am assuming, but do not know, if I’m awake enough to do that I will be awake enough to safely handle the shotgun. (I have a second flashlight by the bed if awaken by something without a threat potential.)

How much training have you done to provide yourself with that assurance?
No training. As stated above we practice, both planned and when awaken by false alarms (the dog barks in the middle of the night almost every week, I think to show he is on the job. If he goes back to his bed of his own accord so do all of us.) We all have been performing satisfactorily in the dry-runs lately, although the kids or the wife do not always wake up.

Pax, in short I think you questions are good ones. I don’t pretend I know all the answers nor that I have thought of and prepared for every possibility. But I do think I’ve insured we will not have the kind of tragedy like the one that started this thread, and the flashlight on the shotgun is part of that insurance.
 
What about mounting a surefire on the front of your bedside gun?

Surfire 6P on the 870, Insight X2 on the PT145, to aid in target identifcation. There is some tactical disadvantage as a light will give away your position, but I'll cut my losses there. I live alone with exception of my girlfriend and her dog on weekends, any family member or friend who needs to reach me after dark knows to call, or at least knock.
 
Very Few Rules

Home Fact: All kids are below waist high.

1 and Only Rule: Wife best get on the floor cause the 9-shot shotty opens up, everything above waist high is going to get it but good!
 
I usually would grab a flashlight before I get my gun. I'm not big on doing a sweep the house with a handgun. If it is a serious threat (someone is definately breaking in) I would get my gun and do a quick headcount of my family and take a defensive/ambush position with my wife and kids behind me. If it is a "bump in the night" my handgun is not leaving my holster until I definately shine some light on the threat.
 
I have a Streamlight M3 on the nightstand gun. I do keep the pistol slightly out of reach, so I have to intentionally move to acquire it. Primary night stand piece is a Surefire 6P. My son is 5 now and he is normally pretty good about yelling "mommy" or "daddy" rather loud if something disturbs him during the night, or if he comes over to our room after a bad dream. We had our vehicles burglarized several years ago, but never any attempts to enter our residence. I bear no goodwill towards any BG that gets into our home, however I would never let rounds fly at an unidentified target, to me, there is no other option.
 
Now I hear "HI DAD, I'm home" a lot and I like that much better than having to constantly yell out "WHO'S THAT?".

Yep, I taught my daughter the same thing. When she was a teen and still living at home, I taught her to call out "Mom, I'm home" or "Hi, Mom, it's me" when entering the house, no matter late it was -- or even how much past her curfew!

I got my first self-defense gun when she was about 6 or 7. She always knew I had it, and why I had it. So when she got old enough to be out at night without me, teaching her to identify herself when entering the house was pretty easy. I don't recall ever specifically addressing the idea of her "surprising" me in the dark, and in retrospect I probably should have, but I also suspect that she knew it would have been a bad idea.
 
All of my HD weapons are in condition three. I also keep a maglite with my pistol. Personal rule of engagement is to tell intruder to get out or get shot. If he runs, he lives, if he stay to fight, he will be shot. I don't have kids, so I'm not worried about shooting one of them by accident.
 
well, there are dogs all over the house, there are locks on the doors, no kids here, and I am a light sleeper. I don't see any need for rules other than that. Guns that I am going to depend on for defense, are chambered, and on safe. Rules of engagement are pretty simple, but due to the tenor of the forum leadership lately, I will refrain from mentioning them.
 
I don't have kids yet so it's a little easier for me. I still make sure I'm fully awake if I hear a bump in the night, maybe grab a weapon but mostly listen intently to make sure I didn't dream it.
I see the arguments against weapon mounted lights, but since most agree the shotgun is the best home defense weapon do you really have a choice? My primary is an 870 and if you can show me how to effectively use a pump shotgun with a hand free for holding a flashlight I'm all ears! I could grab the 1911 and my bedside flashlight but I'd rather use a shotgun.

I like the idea of training kids to knock and ask permission to come in the room before opening the bedroom door! I'll remember that if I have kids. Good for both knowing who's at the door and for making sure they don't accidentally walk in on "mommy and daddy time"! :eek:
 
Handgun is handy plus a backup. Two lights one high powered spot and one backup LED. No kids to worry about so know where the wife is and all others are open to action against them.

I would have to positively ID the threat and determine if to shoot. The high powered spot would blind and ID the perp.
 
For me...
My sons door stays closed at night, with a bell on the door knob. We either hear him coming out of his room or we hear the dog getting up to check on him. Our bedroom door is open at night, the dog sleeps in the doorway. He has proven that if theres an attempt at entry into our house, he goes to the entrypoint and barks untill I call him back. The fiancee goes to the kids room with the telephone, and a pistol, I go to the hallway with the shotgun. From the hall way I can see both doors, and all the windows in the house except for the one in my kids rooms that is covered by my fiancee. The whole time theres an incident I'm talking either to the dog or to the BG so that my fiancee knows where I am. She yells "set" one time when she's secured in the kids bedroom and the rest of the time she's talking to the PD Dispatcher on the phone. My weapons are stored in cases that have to be opened before I can retrieve the weapon. This gives me the two seconds needed to clear my head after be awakened.
 
1. at my place no one else has a key... if someone is there going 'bump' in the night they don't belong there. Retrieve handgun and have a look see. Without going into details I have a very odd ambient light in my place and can see very well (well unless the entire neighborhood is blacked out). I also have a flashlight nearby.

2. at my GF's place there are two frisky cats known for galloping through the house over the bed (and me). Chances are most bumps are the result of one or both of these fur coated hooligans playing rough. Still, that's three other friendlies I have to account for. First thing I do is reach over and make sure the GF is still in bed. Then I'll get up to have a look. Watch out for cats. (Nothing like clearing a room all swat-tastic and have an 8 pound furball think you are playing hide and seek and pounce on your foot.)

3. if i'm camping it's in your best interest not to pretend you are a bear/bigfoot/space alien/Blair Witch trying to get into my tent, as I might not have time nor inclination to light up the inside of my own tent with a flashlight, thus rendering my night vision useless in an attempt to identify a target and backlighting myself to any potential adversary. (Just a side note when camping with friends, they pretty much know I'm armed and don't do such foolish things.) Said ursine/yeti/grey/hag may or may not hear threatening ka-chunk of pump shotun being primed, as I am usually packing a .357 in the woods as well.

Your results/rules may vary.
 
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