What would you do with 55,000 rounds of 22LR??

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I guess the truth is out there somewhere, but when it comes to Thunderbolts, I'm not investing the time, money, or effort to find out.
Individual experiences may vary, especially with rimfire ammo and .22 autos. If I want to shoot pretty groups on paper with a .22 rifle then I'll buy the CCI high velocity.

I was more interested in cheap ammo for my Walther P22 than anything. Right in the Walther manual it says to use high velocity ammo only, but the only reason I have a .22 pistol is to get plenty of practice without breaking the bank. I tried numerous bulk ammo packs and nothing would reliably cycle through the P22 except the Remingtons. The Remmy rounds cycle upwards of 95%. The next closest is actually Wolf which is probably right around the 95% mark as well. While 95% reliability would never fly for a carry weapon or SHTF rifle, that's plenty good enough for me when I'm wanting to put 500 rounds through my P22. It actually gives some added training value by having seldom occuring malfunctions, it's good for practicing IA drills.
 
22-rimfire:

Yes, the Thunderbolts are from the 1998 era. I had a few thousand of them. :) I recently (December 2013) gave my nephew about 1,400 of those 1998 Thunderbolts.

Geno
 
should probably note that the buyer might be a vendor, and .22 is a hot commodity right now. Its only worth what people are willing to pay
 
So, Geno, your older Thunderbolts from circa 1998 are pretty reliable in terms of ignition?

I suspect Remington knows exactly when their quality went down hill. But would never tell publicly. My guess is that they had higher production needs than the machines would reliably produce at the old rate (old higher standard) and simply cranked up the production rate a bit over several steps until someone noticed. Nobody noticed since many keep a supply of 22 ammo on hand anyway until one day their reputation slipped big time over a couple year span of time. I suspect their plant expansion is badly needed for more than 22 rimfire production.

I wonder when the first bulk packs were produced? I know they were available in 2005. But what about 2000?
 
I suspect Remington knows exactly when their quality went down hill.
I'm also leery of buying products from companies that have been swallowed by a conglomerate, be it "friendly" or ? I've seen too many companies raided by asset mangers, venture capital firms (insert your similar term of choice here) etc. - it usually isn't long before the screws are turned in order to get profit and productivity up, usually at the expense of the product.

'Course, most of these venture capital firms know they'll be long gone before folks realize they've destroyed the company and its reputation.

It's not always the case, and it depends on the firm behind the curtain that's controlling the money, but for a number of years I've been leery of buying anything under the Freedom Group umbrella.

Apparently the boyz at the local gun shop have noticed the same thing over the years? I remember quite a while back hearing the gunsmith tell folks if they wanted a Marlin, they better buy one quick as he expected quality to fall off soon.

I used to work in manufacturing - way back, we improved productivity by redesigning / updating the machinery - your basic mo', better, faster.
Over the years the bean counters managed to wrest control of the company, and increasing productivity meant cutting QC / standards, closing plants and laying off employees while piling their workload on remaining employees.

Increasing productivity these days seem to mean beat it outta the workers.
I guess that's both faster and cheaper than having machinery (re) designed, overhauled, maintained, etc, and it shows a quick, short term profit.

Long term implications for the company / employees / product be damned...
 
Dude, I'd be shooting that stuff off, just like I'm doing with what I stashed long before the last two shortages. We shoot alot of rimfire every year. I am totally unimpressed by Remington rimfire .22 though. I have shot gobs of the stuff, and also used it for our jr. program in the past, via CMP, and the stuff misfires and has alot of velocity variations. Years ago I had a case head separate on some of that stuff and it blew my mag out( Ruger 10/22). I was not hurt. But had to literally dig the remains out of the ground and send it to Remington. They were cool about it. I really hope they did improve the ammo. I have found CCI to be the best, followed by Federal and then Winchester. I stash to shoot, Just my take. :D
 
If it were $0.05/round, that might be a different story even for Thunderbolts.

Not for me, if all they have is Thunderbolt or Golden Bullet bulk pack, as far as I'm concerned they're still out.

At $0.14/round I can shoot center-fire reloads.
 
I probably have about 20,000 rounds left, I have not purchased any in about 8 years, I shoot off my back porch almost every day of that I have only 6,000 rounds of a very sweet lot of Eley Tenex that feeds my Anchutz BR rifle
 
I hope that people's attitudes change a little concerning Remington Golden Bullets as they really do fire more consistantly now.

That's just not my experience at all.
 
Keep about 25%, then try to profit-during the next Unanticipated panic. They are buying Thunderbolt at that quantity, partly because so many people with .22s Avoid ThunderSlug. Literally every other round causes gas blowbacks in the nice old '40's Savage.

And appox. two months ago-until the ATF's import ban on the steel core version-you could buy corrosive centerfire 5.45 x39 rifle ammo at .16/rd.
 
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Check those corrugated cartons. Have they been wet?
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing when I checked out the pix.

'Course, I guess it's a "good news, bad news" kinda thang?

Bad news is they may have gotten wet.
Good news is it won't make any difference.

Wait, wha'...? :D
 
I've started "plinking" with my 22 Hornet. Only takes 13 grains of Li'l Gun. And I no longer make fun of my brother who found a sale on Winchester Target Standard Velocity .22LR at a gun store that was going out of business a few years ago. He paid $12 a brick and bought 15,000 rounds. I now buy from him:)
Back to the original post, looks like the guy was unsuccessful in his gouging efforts.
 
I wouldn't pay that price for ThunderDuds but if I had it laying around, I'd probably donate it to the Boy Scouts.For the last 2 years they've had a hard time getting ammo for a shoot.
 
I would hover over it, rubbing my hands together, wickedly grinning and saying "it's mine, it's all MINE! bwahahaha!"
 
"Back in the (not so distant) day," two friends and I would take one .22 pistol, 3 magazines, and ammo to the nearest range. The three of us would load our magazines, one of us would shoot his/her 10 rounds, remove the magazine and set the pistol on the bench, then start reloading. The next person would do the same. Then the third. Repeat until tired.

Counting breaks for target changes and the like we averaged about one 550 pack per 90 minutes of shooting. We would stop on the way home from the range and buy two or three bulk packs (at about $7 each) to replace what we had fired. Then we would stop at a fast food place and get change back on a $10 for food for the three of us, and maybe fill up on some $0.89/gallon gasoline.

55000 rounds is alot of ammo (that's >400lbs iirc) but for a small family that wants to shoot for an hour a week, it is probably only a 2 year supply.
 
With that much ammo, I'd sponsor a range day for the local Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts troop. Nothing like investing in our future generation of shooters and gun-rights promoters - they will be the ones to carry on the hobby.
 
Steer far clear of it...laughing all the way.

$.14 cent a round doesn't seem to (sic) bad. Cheap enough for most people to afford.
You've got to be kidding.
I load .45acp for .12/rd.
No way am I paying .14/rd for .22RF.
 
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