What? You have to clean them?

Would you think that all Germans 🇩🇪 like things to be regularly cleaned? If so, guess again.

My friend from Essen (in NRW/Nordrhein-Westfalen) has a wide selection of guns, but because of his six horses, can't shoot very often.

A couple of time I did some decent internal cleaning in his "Green Box" ('84) Colt AR-15 and three other guns. I enjoyed my First time using Youtube to learn how to disassemble his AR (my age was about 60o_O) and a first-time disassembling
a 🇮🇹Beretta 9mm 92f* handgun, plus shotgun..

A little ironic that he hates to clean guns? Well, his hometown's earlier main industry armed Germany from 1587 through WW2 when the city was "erased" by the RAF and USAAF.
 
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I have a Taurus Pt-111 G2 that if you dont clean it after about two hundred rounds you start getting light primer strikes. I pulled the striker out to clean the channel and actually foung a sliver of Brass inside along with Carbon. I love the Gun but I think its a bad design.
 
I'll say it again..........let it go far enough to malfunction then it's on you!

Sometimes that is the goal!
SD guns get cleaned more than any other in my safe. Range only and Competition? I dont like sooty hands so they at least get wiped off occasionally.
 
I'll freely admit, I hardly ever clean my glocks and AR's. The glocks can go a good long while with just a quick scrub and wipe, few passes down the bbl. But every once in a while my carry gun gets the royal cleaning, but not often.
 
There seems to be two camps with the AR's in terms of cleaning, the ones who maintain their weapons the way they were trained to in the service and those that think the AR needs to be spotless and cleaned after every outing for it to run reliably.....

And those that hardly ever clean them and know how to properly lubricate to keep it running properly. I think regular cleaning of the AR after every outing is unnecessary tbh. I don't enjoy cleaning the AR for some reason, I'm glad I don't have to very often.
 
I suppose I could see (I still don't) if the gun were a toy with no chance of ever being needed for anything serious (but you know how that goes too) letting it go until something needed to be addressed. You still arent maintaining it and watching for those things that could go and get ugly should they go south though.

On the other end, the thing I really don't understand is, not cleaning/maintaining things you may need to and plan on working in any worst case, and not keeping them in truly ready condition. Yea, it "might" run 10K rounds without cleaning, or it might draw up on you and quit at 100 rounds and when you need it at 101, something is broken or seized up for some reason, that you most likely would have caught if you'd been cleaning, maintaining, and inspecting the gun.

Just out of curiosity here, but if you were told in an hour, you were about to go into a firefight and someone handed you a gun you'd never seen before, would you load it up and say good to go? Or would you check it to see if it were functional and likely to work, give it a quick teardown, clean and lube, and check it and anything else you were given to make sure they were OK?
 
I do shoot a lot of AKs & I do not clean them every time I take them to the range. The only time I clean them right away is if I shoot corrosive ammo, then I have to thoroughly clean every part because you never know where that corrosive gas can get to.
My ARs do get cleaned if they start to have problems & my sniper bolt guns get cleaned almost every time they get used because they are so easy to clean.
 
When I get back from the range all the one's I've fired all get field stripped cleaned even if I only ran just a few rounds through them. It's a carry over from my black powder days, a habit I got into and never got out of.
 
There seems to be two camps with the AR's in terms of cleaning, the ones who maintain their weapons the way they were trained to in the service and those that think the AR needs to be spotless and cleaned after every outing for it to run reliably.....

And those that hardly ever clean them and know how to properly lubricate to keep it running properly. I think regular cleaning of the AR after every outing is unnecessary tbh. I don't enjoy cleaning the AR for some reason, I'm glad I don't have to very often.
 
I was taught by my ww2 veteran great grandpa if you shoot it you clean it. Even if I just shoot couple rounds out of a new shooter for function check it gets atleast a wipe down and rag down the pipe. Everything gets a basic clean after firing regardless of round count. And a full tear down atleast bi monthly. Even the safe queens that don't see much range time gets pulled out and wiped down and inspected every month.
 
How long do you typically wait before you clean your AR? Mine get pretty filthy after a case of cheap bulk ammo but with a lil lubricant in the right places, no cleaning is necessary. I don't really notice any fouling that bothers me until about 2K-3K rounds but even then just a lil CLP and a wipe down is all good. Just wondering if your AR actually chokes or you just clean it when it looks filthy.
I clean my ar's when I pull the ch and the bolts stay back their own
 
Hoped this would have been a pig killing thread but yep, when adding oil quits working, you have to clean them out. Can's ensure you stay on top of it.
 
Cleaning serves a second purpose also. I clean my guns after each range session to check for wear points and look for any problem areas like I once found in a Kel Tec 9mm with its cracked frame. That problem could have led to a "problem" if it hadn't been caught early.
The first sign of the problem should have been the “Kel-Tec” lettering on the side….

In all seriousness, it’s a good point. Cleaning offers oppurtunity for inspection, which is sometimes more important than the cleaning itself.
 
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