What's so great about commie guns

[Handyman]

I don't get it . Why do so many choose those "Commie guns" to be there main " survival " , " bugout " , " go to" or whatever gun . I've checked out some SKS's and AK's at the gun shop . To me they feel like clunky hunks of commie crap . And , whats so great about the 7.62x59 or 7.62x39 or even the 9 mil. Aren't the good old 30-06 , 30-30 , 5.56 , 45acp , 357 mag , 38 spec. , and the guns that shoot them , better than that surplus junk ? I say , BUY AMERICAN .

 

[orangelo]

Tough as nails and cheap as dirt. They are designed to be manufactured by 3rd world illiterate hillbillies with rocks for tools.

That $3000 Knight's SR-25 might put 10 rounds into a hole the size of a nickel, but it won't survive gorilla time with a bunch of cavemen like the AK was designed to.

 

[Geronimo45]

Commie guns... well, the Russian nation critter is the bear. My theory is that they were planning on teaching bears to use their weapons... thus the Nagant trigger, Makarov recoil....
The thing about them is this: very low price, very cheap ammo, usually very reliable guns. They may handle like a 2x4... but they'll usually go 'bang' whenever you need it.
Survival guns - you don't mind beating up on them.

 

[RNB65]

They're cheap. They're reliable. They work.

What's not to like?

I prefer AR15's myself, but the commie guns are great for their intended purpose.

 

[hankdatank1362]

Well...

Reliability is a big plus. Some people say ARs are finicky, some say unreliable, some say that's all hogwash and that they're the best.

You never hear someone knocking the simplicity and reliability of a Kalashnikov-based weapon.

Also, the 7.62 class of weapons are thought to be more "potent" than rifles of 5.56 caliber.

The Russkies might never have had many faults, but military weakness was not one of them (maybe nowadays, I don't know.)

The GLOCK used to be strictly imported... and it still blew all American service pistols out of the water... as much as it pains me to say it.

Don't knock foreign goods if they're better than what we make. A Honda, anemic though they may be, will outlast any American car.

 

[STAGE 2]

If I have to explain it you wouldn't understand. That said, they are designed to function in the worst possible environment with the most inexperienced soldier on the planet. My sks made in 1954 will run far longer than the newest AR. Same thing goes for my mak or an AK. Pretty they ain't, but about as functional they are.

 

[cracked butt]

I say , BUY AMERICAN

Well said, at least until you back your American made pickup truck over your rifle, you'd better hope that its a 'Commie rifle' if you ever need it to shoot again.

7.62x54R? - nearly as powerful as the 30-06, but it beat the introduction of the 30-06 by 15 years.
7.62x39? -About as powerful as the 30-30 in a much smaller package, and a whole a whole lot better of a stopper than the .223.

 

[carterbeauford]

Welcome to THR.

You mean other than their reliability, ruggedness, availability, price, and beauty?

The handy little inventions of Kalashnikov and Simonov seem to have gotten the job done everywhere else in the east for the last 60 years, why fix somethin' that 'aint broke? The SKS and the AK are legends.

Soviet rifles are rather popular among our members, you might find you're offending some people. If anything I urge you to learn some more about these rifles, I really started to hold them in high regard once I learned about them. The SVD still makes me drool. .30-06 might be an American cartridge, but compare it with 7.62x54R and you still have a .30 caliber chunk of metal and lead flying through the air really fast that will kill almost anything that moves.

 

[hankdatank1362]

Oh... and Welcome to The High Road.


Sorry for not saying that earlier. Hell, I'm a "Senior Member", and no one ever told me welcome...

(But I'll get over it )

 

[skidooman]

i agree fully with handy man, i hate AK's and SKS's absolutely hate them, i know you can trick them out, and they always go boom when you want them to, but... i am not an illiterate hillbilly with a rock, and i prefer my American made finely tuned precision instruments.

 

[Doug S]

It's already been said, but they are first of all reliable, and secondly, cheap.

 

[Hoploholic]

I would also like to chime in that they have the added benefit of irking one post gun snobs.

This post was obviously intended to stir up the mud so please be a trooper and don't feed this troll.

 

[Manedwolf]

Don't knock foreign goods if they're better than what we make. A Honda, anemic though they may be, will outlast any American car.

Minor correction to perception there: Most Hondas are made in the US, usually in Ohio, and have been for almost 20 years now. And...this is a Honda. (NSX) Anemic? Don't think so.

As to "commie guns", don't forget some of their interesting handguns, too. Like the Tokarev. What US manufacturer ever made a slender, Browning-design auto that fired a round that'd punch through most any vest short of Level III? They've made some neat stuff.

 

[benEzra]

I don't get it . Why do so many choose those "Commie guns" to be there main " survival " , " bugout " , " go to" or whatever gun . I've checked out some SKS's and AK's at the gun shop . To me they feel like clunky hunks of commie crap . And , whats so great about the 7.62x59 or 7.62x39 or even the 9 mil. Aren't the good old 30-06 , 30-30 , 5.56 , 45acp , 357 mag , 38 spec. , and the guns that shoot them , better than that surplus junk ? I say , BUY AMERICAN .

If I could afford a $1000 16" flattop AR, I'd own one. I can't. A $379 SAR-1 is the best I can do:

And it's pretty darn good. No, the fit and finish isn't as good as an AR, but it's just as reliable--or better. Accuracy is probably on par with a Winchester Model 94. 7.62x39mm is comparable to .30-30, but is more compact and feeds out of a detachable box magazine.

When I can afford a Rock River Arms CAR Elite A4, I'll get one. Until then, it's a civvie AK lookalike for me.

Here's my wife's rifle:

BTW, my personal handgun is an American-made S&W 3913LS, chambered in 9mm. That's an American cartridge now, and the ammunition in it at the moment is good old American-made Cor-Bon 115gr JHP +P.

 

[Standing Wolf]

Too ugly for me, thanks all the same.

 

[xd9fan]

bought the arsenal ak47 to due its xd/glock-like reliability. I have heard to many AR owners say their AR's are great but so sensitive to sand etc.

I bought the XD for the same reason. Its like cars and trucks, If the americans can build great stuff....I'll buy it. If not....I'll go else where.
Variety is good!!!