Whats so special about Dillon?

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I would bet money a Lee master will run circles around most peoples presses (bullet seating die included)..


How much money are we talking about? I'm in, you can even load pistol and I'll load rifle.


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LOL! Your Dillon 1050 with a kiss bullet feeder ain't 'xactly playing fair jmorris....ain't most people's presses, either. But sweet it is if you can afford one and a Kiss (Mr. Bullet Feeder) to boot.:D

I will grant that the Load Master can load as fast as any of the others.....when perfectly set up....for a while. The problem lies in keeping things that way. My experience (helping a good friend keep his running) has shown that it requires a constant watch, constant lubing & cleaning, or things go south fast, especially in the primer feed area and for sure the bullet feeder.....now a Kiss bullet feeder would help it just as well as it will a Dillon 1050 if you have the mon. The case feeder is not in the same league as Dillon/Hornady versions...it's a help, yes, but really it's no comparison at all. Even the simple pushing of a case into the sizer has caused my friend problems sometimes, when he let things get out of snyc. The result was mangled brass....his fault because he forces things...."if it ain't going in easy...push harder," he says.:)

All that said, knowing my own personal limitations, I won't be loading as fast as jmorris does in that video.....ever....:eek: Which is why I don't have to have...nor want both a case feeder AND a bullet feeder....or a 1050. Thankgoodness too, as I can't justify the cost....too big a family to feed.;) (I have to say my attitude could change with more mon and better fail-safe powder measures on the market.)

The RCBS I have doesn't require ANY syncing and resyncing...set it up the first time and its always right. That one feature makes it worth the higher than Lee prices to me. The killer primer feed system is gravy.
 
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LOL! Your Dillon 1050 with a kiss bullet feeder ain't 'xactly playing fair

I let my wife gamble, I bet only if I can win.

I let the "best stuff" threads go for the most part (4 pages in this case) but hook line and sinker...couldn't help it.
 
The problem lies in keeping things that way. My experience (helping a good friend keep his running) has shown that it requires a constant watch, constant lubing & cleaning, or things go south fast, especially in the primer feed area and for sure the bullet feeder.....now a Kiss bullet feeder would help it just as well as it will a Dillon 1050 if you have the mon.

Another good point, zero is the point average speed goes south. Once you have to stop to shake a primer feed/ case feed your average falls, fast.

I can tell you, from owning at least one of every rifle/pistol reloading machine, every machine will have problems. Dillons have less than the others.
 
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I let the "best stuff" threads go for the most part (4 pages in this case) but hook line and sinker...couldn't help it.
I came close to getting my wife to say OK to a Super 1050 for loading the bulk of my match caliber of 40S&W after seeing one in action ... thing of beauty!

Of course, she had to ask, "But will it load more accurate match ammo?" and ruin everything! :banghead:
 
I came close to getting my wife to say OK to a Super 1050 for loading the bulk of my match caliber of 40S&W after seeing one in action ... thing of beauty!


Of course, she had to ask, "But will it load more accurate match ammo?" and ruin everything!

That's funny, the one above was a gift from my wife, she said the quicker I get done the more time I can spent with her. If that's not a selling point to women I don't know what would be.
 
Haha.. Well if price isn't an issue let's build a manufacturing plant, they're much faster :)

I'd have to agree with GW Staar, any fully setup progressive press is just as fast as any of the others.. A load master with a case feeder and bullet feeder is just as fast as your video (the limiting factor is how fast you can pull the handle).. I'm sure it's not as reliable, it's 1/5 the cost!

Going back to the original posted question, IMHO there is nothing special about Dillon. They make good presses that are just as reliable as RCBS and/or Hornady and maybe a little more reliable than Lee. Just have to find the one you like, do a cost analysis (is it really reasonable for YOU to spend $x based on how much you shoot), and go with that one.. Customer service, I'm sure, is just as good for all companies.. Take that advice for what it's worth (probably not much)..
 
That's funny, the one above was a gift from my wife, she said the quicker I get done the more time I can spent with her. If that's not a selling point to women I don't know what would be.

I tried that on my wife, I'll let you know how it turns out... :fire:
 
That's funny, the one above was a gift from my wife, she said the quicker I get done the more time I can spent with her. If that's not a selling point to women I don't know what would be.
I tried that and she said "what makes you so sure that I want to spend more time with you?":what::rolleyes:
 
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I tried that and she said "what makes you so sure that I want to spend more time with you?"

:D:D:D

I am to a point where I have a dedicated press set up for each caliber. Although I "prefer" a Super 1050 for high volume 40S&W production, looks like Hornady AP LNL may probably fill that role.
 
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any fully setup progressive press is just as fast as any of the others... I'm sure it's not as reliable, it's 1/5 the cost!

Reliable, is the key to speed. You can win if you have to pit more often. I have RCBS, Hornady and Lee presses out in the shop too, so I know they will make perfectly fine ammo and the right price for me when I picked them up. None of the Dillons are flawless by a long shot but they are simply more reliable than the others.
 
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I tried that and she said "what makes you so sure that I want to spend more time with you?"

Oh, your going to have to leard to snuggle better. Maybe take one for the team and watch a Lifetime movie or two. That should grease the skids.
 
Our family (my adult sons and one adult daughter) shoot in various Competition Venues...sometimes running 2000 rounds per week.:eek:

Being the Dad and a reloader since 1973...we've owned ALL the machines.

The machines we 'evolved to' via trial and error and more experience than most, are the DILLON products.

Go down the line at various Gun Games and you will notice the serious, no BS, no excuses shooters are running Dillon equipment.

The other brands are OK if you're a casual plinker or range dog, but those brands simple don't hold up and need constant tuning and tweeking to keep running. :mad:

Nobody and I mean nobody has better customer service than Dillon. A life time warranty means just that. One man I know found a old 550 out behind a barn, in the grass covered with dirt and rust. He shipped it to Dillon to get an estimate to get it running; the machine came back in NEW CONDITION with everything replaced. No Charge. Incredible.

We are now running a Dillon 1050 set up in .45 auto. She can produce 1200 rounds per hour.. Also we run a 550B with case feeder (with several quik change caliber heads) and she will do 700 rounds per hour.

I would never consider reloading without a Dillon machine. If you are collecting and shooting guns because you love them; or love to tinker in your Man Cave as an enjoyable hobby....then you owe it to yourself to RELOAD.

Here is Californistan, reloading may be the only option :( to save money in the future because these mis-guided clowns in our local government want to ban internet sales of ammo and require all purchases be logged in and face-to-face. This isn't law yet, but they are working on it..(dang)

These machines are a bit more money up front, but they hold their value and will save you big money over time.

Much less expensive than my Boat, Cars and Airplane...hehehe.

Bob

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I must admit, hearing all the reliability comments associated with Dillon has me very interested. I'm working my way through graduate school now (hence I have the cheapest presses), once I have a real job I may have to look into upgrading... I need to start shooting WAY more if I'm going to convince the wife to let me "make an investment."

Like I always tell her about her $2k paintings: if you're not going to sell it, it's not an investment...

I can just hear her throw that one back in my face! :mad:

I'm saving about $12/box, which means an estimated $800 for the press/dies/accessories will take me ~67 boxes of ammo just to make my money back.. I usually only shoot 2-4boxes a month, at least 2 years to "save the money." That's not even including the money I'll spend on the bullets/primers...

I'm a firm believer that you never actually save money reloading, just relocate it.. If it wasn't so damn addicting.....
 
Depends on your outlook in life... To me, it's dumb as hell to pay $100k for a car that will take you somewhere just as fast/effective as a $10k car...

Well, you show me a 10K car that will outrun a 512TR and I'll buy a Lee.

If you're happy with cheap stuff, drive on. Just don't expect everyone else to be willing to settle.
 
^^^ There's a difference between "don't want to" and "can't". I'm somewhere in between... except, I often "want to" but "can't". :)
 
I will grant that the Load Master can load as fast as any of the others.....when perfectly set up....for a while. The problem lies in keeping things that way. My experience (helping a good friend keep his running) has shown that it requires a constant watch, constant lubing & cleaning, or things go south fast, especially in the primer feed area and for sure the bullet feeder.....now a Kiss bullet feeder would help it just as well as it will a Dillon 1050 if you have the mon.

Amen! And that's why I passed on the Lee. To many people told me you spend a lot of time adjusting and tinkering.

Even the Dillon requires cleaning or you'll have primer problems. I generally clean mine every 1k rounds. I've started using compressed air and just blowing the dirt out though.

I have to admit I haven't seen a press yet that holds a candle to the 1050. Mine is the older model with a shorter throw. It won't do the long cartridges but it will do 1200 an hour when I'm doing .44 or .45. I picked this one up used for $800. The only thing I regret was the seller had 2 for sale. Looking back I should have bit the bullet and bought both. Wish I could find another at that price.

The 650 is much slower in my opinion. It's rated at 800 per hour but I haven't seen it from mine. I use this one for small primer loading. Realistically it will do 500 an hour rarely stopping other then to refill primers and powder.
 
Joed: a shorter stroke is better in my book. Is it big enough to load 30/06?

I have never seen one in operation before. How tough is it to correct a case that didn't get powder or gets a double charge?
 
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