Whats so special about Dillon?

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Oceanbob said:
We are now running a Dillon 1050 set up in .45 auto. She can produce 1200 rounds per hour..
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1200 per hour by your wife? Dang, I gotta show my wife this post! :D

"Honey, your production rate is way below par. You now HAVE to buy us a Super 1050 so we can reach a decent production rate!" :D:D:D
 
bds said:
1200 per hour by your wife? Dang, I gotta show my wife this post! :D

"Honey, your production rate is way below par. You now HAVE to buy us a Super 1050 so we can reach a decent production rate!" :D:D:D
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LOL....yep, that will fly like a lead balloon.....hahaha
 
The 650 is much slower in my opinion. It's rated at 800 per hour but I haven't seen it from mine. I use this one for small primer loading. Realistically it will do 500 an hour rarely stopping other then to refill primers and powder.
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With case and bullet feeders I load 500 in less than 20 minutes. Just as fast as the 1050, if you don't have crimped primer pockets.

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jcwit said:
Like we can all afford one.
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Does it matter if a $10 kia can outrun a 512T if the speed limit is still 70mph..

Point being, each press only works as fast as you can pull the handle.... If I can pull it faster than you can, guess what?! My press is faster :)

Maybe someday when I have a real job I can entertain the idea of having a more "reliable press."
 
No, YOU would be faster than Me; nothing to do with the press.

Again, if you're happy with a KIA. drive on. Other folks have different standards and expections.
 
I don't have a Dillon --yet I guess. I get the catalog though, and I have read into the gear. What amazes me about the stuff they sell is that it is kind of unique. Lee, RCBS, etc., they all make similar stuff, but Dillon makes some high volume gear and a lot of specialty stuff to go along with it. The sensors and the automated feeds come to mind. You can get a Dillon press that is so automated the only thing you really have to do is pull the handle. Brass and all other components are fed into the system, loaded ammo falls out.

I still use the single stage too. Probably won't change anytime soon, I just got a new digital scale and dispenser, so that sped things up for me. I can't load what I load using a progressive anyway. But when I do get a progressive, it will be a Dillon, that is for sure.

Never really heard anything bad about a Dillon.
 
DrFrogLegs, I am sure you mean well but this reeks of sour grapes.

I started with a Lyman Spartan (1963). How old are you?

I went to a Lee Turret. After a while I traded for a CH progressive. Sold it and bought a Lee Pro 1000. At one time I had three 1000s going.

When I started shooting cowboy about 2000, I bought a 650. Lord have mercy. It was like going from a FIE to a Smith. Solid. Smooth. Firm. And easy.

I now have three 650s. Tempted to get a 1050. Why? Cause I can. And I love the Dillons. I have ran some other presses but I am convinced the Dillon is the premier press.

I ran a Mec 600 Jr for 40 years. Then I bought a Ponce/Warren 800 Plus. Lord have mercy. Shotgun reloading heaven.

Now if you are satisfied with an inexpensive press that puts out good ammo, great. If you have an inexpensive press, please don't tell me I should get one and save money.

Promise me something. When you land "that" job, call me if you buy a Dillon.

Better hurry. This fellow will be 70 day after tomorrow.

Red (who has reloaded for almost 50 years) Cent.
 
drfroglegs said:
Does it matter if a $10 kia can outrun a 512T if the speed limit is still 70mph..
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The guy who gets to 70 first gets to be in front. :neener:

Not to mention the chick appeal. :what:

Seriously though, I have a Lee CC and a Dillon 550b. The Lee was a bang for the buck purchase because I wanted a solid single stage. I was kind of surprised to discover that sizing 30-06 on the 550 is easier and smoother than the CC with a better 'feel'. Of course your mileage may vary.

I have no regrets with either purchase, and have been poor enough to appreciate value. But you are going to have a hard time convincing anyone that the additional cost provides no additional value. And in many situations, that additional value is priceless.
 
RE Fast cars: I've got a 1974 Datsun 260Z (early version) same as the 240Z. It has a fiberglass body kit with the rear hatch replaced, the window regulators removed etc. so it only weighs about 2000 pounds. I'll soon be fitting a 431CID small block Chevy (400 block + 427 stroker crankshaft + .020 overbore). So... when it comes to power:weight... my little POS beats all the current million dollar cars.

So what?.....

This is about re-loading gear.
 
Mike1234567 said:
RE Fast cars: I've got a 1974 Datsun 260Z (early version) same as the 240Z. It has a fiberglass body kit with the rear hatch replaced, the window regulators removed etc. so it only weighs about 2000 pounds. I'll soon be fitting a 431CID small block Chevy (400 block + 427 stroker crankshaft + .020 overbore). So... when it comes to power:weight... my little POS beats all the current million dollar cars.

So what?.....

This is about re-loading gear.
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Ah, the Fairlady! Ever seen a スカイライン (Nissan Skyline)?
 
When was the last time it snowed in Scottsdale , AZ ? :neener:

You are correct, they have their own street.

Dillon Precision Products, Inc.
8009 East Dillon's Way
Scottsdale, AZ 85260 U.S.A.
 
Oceanbob said:
Yes but they reintroduced another version of the same bill. It's only a matter of time.

Bob
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That's why I live in New Mexico instead of California. It's also nice to have every state surrounding you gun (and Conceal Carry) friendly...My guns and my hobbies feel safer here.:)

The big worry here is Obama and his friends. Here even Democrats are 90 percent gun friendly.
 
jmorris said:
With case and bullet feeders I load 500 in less than 20 minutes. Just as fast as the 1050, if you don't have crimped primer pockets.

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Kudos to your equipment and skill! I mean it! The trouble I see with loading that fast, is the guy pulling the handle is not a computer and can't guarantee, at that speed, that there are no powder bridges, or other problems with measuring powder, or no sideways primers, or other glitches, until there's a lot of work to do to undo it (if its caught at all).

We can prevent part of that with a powder cop, or lockout die, but of course, when they indicate a problem, the speed drops to zero doesn't it? I don't understand why we're racing in the first place. I don't think that's too compatible with safe, quality ammo with Lees, Dillons, or anything else for that matter...least not on this uncomputerized level of personal manufacturing. That's an open invitation to Murphy and his mischief at my house.

On the other hand, you're a lot younger than I am (and smarter too), so I can allow that you can most likely load safe ammo way faster than I can, even if we had the same equipment.:) At the same time, the insinuation is that 500 in 20 minutes ought to be the goal for all progressive reloading is IMO, asking for disaster in many man caves.:D:D
 
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re: Locator Tabs

Dillon used to sell those cute little blue locator tabs that attached to the locator pins, making them easier to install and remove. At some point they stopped making them. Does anyone have an after-market source for the tabs?
 
Kudos to your equipment and skill! I mean it! The trouble I see with loading that fast, is the guy pulling the handle is not a computer and can't guarantee, at that speed, that there are no powder bridges, or other problems with measuring powder, or no sideways primers, or other glitches, until there's a lot of work to do to undo it (if its caught at all).


We can prevent part of that with a powder cop, or lockout die, but of course, when they indicate a problem, the speed drops to zero doesn't it? I don't understand why we're racing in the first place. I don't think that's too compatible with safe, quality ammo with Lees, Dillons, or anything else for that matter...least not on this uncomputerized level of personal manufacturing. That's an open invitation to Murphy and his mischief at my house.
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If you don't want to have powder bridges never use extruded powders on a progressive, on the 650 above you still seat primers at the end of the down stroke so you feel every one seat, solving "other glitches" is the point in buying Dillon in the first place.

There is a powder check die on the 650 above and if it ever goes off I do halt operation but again that's the point of the device. The only time it goes off on me these days is before I start loading and swing it up to buzz it so I know the batt is still good.

For some reloading is relaxing and for them a single stage isn't a bad idea as they can "meditate" all day long. On the ammunition I need for matches and practice every week I simply don't have the time these days to load the way I used to. So its only a race with the clock.


Kevin the tabs are standard on a 1050 to this day. So you can pick them up from Dillon.
 
2.4 per SecI'm not that fast.
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Your math is backwords 2.4 rounds per second is 8640 an hour. 500 in 20 min is 1 round averaging 2.4 seconds. "One thousand one" down stroke, "one thousand two" up stroke is all it takes.
 
jmorris said:
If you don't want to have powder bridges never use extruded powders on a progressive, on the 650 above you still seat primers at the end of the down stroke so you feel every one seat, solving "other glitches" is the point in buying Dillon in the first place.
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I buy the "no extruded powders argument" if you think you have to load that fast. But not the "feel" every primer seat at that speed.

As for other "glitches" the one thing Dillon is NOT known for is any lack of threads on Brian Enos, or any other reloading forum, on Dillon 650 glitches, sideways primers, and even primer tube kabooms. Yes it's a great press, but there is no such thing as a glitch-free press out of the box.

jmorris said:
For some reloading is relaxing and for them a single stage isn't a bad idea as they can "meditate" all day long. On the ammunition I need for matches and practice every week I simply don't have the time these days to load the way I used to. So its only a race with the clock.
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Valid argument, as long as ammo you're able to make at that speed is competition quality. I have no doubt yours is, and that your presses are tweaked to near perfection. Obviously you have the talent to so tweak. Whether jmorris wannabes can do that is another thing.:D One of the reasons I picked the Pro 2000 over it. Less complicated with fewer moving parts....less to have to tweak. Nor do I have the pressure of competition every week.
 
I'm retired, did so at 57, I waited all my working life to retire. My life is now absorbed with hobbies. When my hobbies become work I will no longer pursue that hobby. Price of said hobby has nothing to do with it.

Personnally I think spending the amount that a Dillion press costs is outrageous, but then I have rifles that could have bought 2, 3, 4 Dillion presses.

Final comment, To each his own!
 
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