What's the best pre-1898 and therefore non-gun you can have shipped to your door

[Futo Inu]

sans any license? Mosin-Nagant 91/30 - are some of these "non-guns"? (I would think so, since 1891 precedes 1898). Any of them decent? Any other options? Me no like transfer fees and paperwork.

 

[telewinz]

IIRC the Model 1893 or 1895 Mauser Bolt action, they have that third locking lug, just like the model 1898.

 

[max popenker]

Original 1885 Hi-wall or 1886 lever gun, if you have enough of $$$

 

[MonkeyMan]

96 Swede Mauser if you can find one dated that far back.

 

[Greg L]

Mosin-Nagant 91/30 - are some of these "non-guns"? (I would think so, since 1891 precedes 1898).

The 30 in 91/30 is for 1930. The 91/30 series of rifles were an updating of the 1891 series. However most of the 1891 series were made in the early 1900's (I think). If you could find a rifle dated before 1898 you should be alright (however that is a thing to check carefully before just accepting my word on it ).

Greg

 

[MonkeyMan]

Greg L, the date on the receiver is what's important to the Booze, Butts, Bullets, and Bombs Boyz. I've seen M-91's, 91-30's, 38's, 39's, and 44's with receiver dates older than 1898.

 

[RON in PA]

Mauser models prior to the 98 do not have the third locking lug.

 

[telewinz]

Ron from PA

Sorry, my mistake only the 1895 Chilean had the 3rd locking lug, not the 93'. The Swedish 94 and 96 would be good choices because of their superior steel.

 

[oldfart]

The '93 Mauser would be my choice. If the barrel just happened to be a piece of dog doo-doo, so much the better. You'd get it at a good price and then you could put a brand new surplus 7X57 barrel on it. That makes a very fine combination.

 

[Quartus]

Gatling gun. Any caliber.

 

[Beetle Bailey]

You can get a Finn M39 Mosin Nagant with an old Russian receiver. They sometimes have them at gunsnammo.com

 

[c_yeager]

Are you sure that its just the date on the reciever that matters? I know that a rifle will no longer qualify as a C&R if its been "modufied". I cant imagine ANY 91/30 or M44 qualifying as a non-gun regardless of when the reciever dates to.

 

[Dave Markowitz]

Are you sure that its just the date on the reciever that matters? I know that a rifle will no longer qualify as a C&R if its been "modufied". I cant imagine ANY 91/30 or M44 qualifying as a non-gun regardless of when the reciever dates to.

The M1944s and M91/30s qualify as C&Rs even if they are post-1898. If one was made on a pre-98 receiver, that was done by the Soviets, not by Joe Bubba who sporterized it. So it's still a C&R.

 

[goon]

There are some Finnish M-39s that were built on recievers that old.

 

[curt]

1873 Springfield Trapdoor

 

[Reason]

Are these pre-1898 Mosins safe to fire with full-house surplus and Wolf loads?

 

[Beetle Bailey]

At www.gunsnammo.com if you go to the M39 section and scroll to the bottom they actually have an "unissued" B-barrel M39 built on an old Russian receiver that you can buy directly as long as you are not a fugitive from justice, five-year-old kid, etc. . I think the funny thing is since it's unissued by the Finnish armory, all the furniture and the barrel should be mint, but since the receiver originally came from a MN 91, (the Finns took and re-used captured weapons and their parts) you can get a pretty nice looking gun in the mail. But hey, why not get a C&R license? Unless you are absolutely against the idea, it's a great way to get stuff shipped directly to you.

Reason, if I got that unissued B-barrel, I would definately take it to my local gunsmith to ask his opinion, but I already have a B-barrel and I think she would get jealous if I went out and got another

 

[gun-fucious]

in some states have a further qualifications:

heres marylands:

(c) "Antique firearm" means:
(1) Any firearm (including any firearm with a
matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar
type of ignition system) manufactured in or
before 1898; and
(2) Any replica of any firearm described in
paragraph (1) of this subsection if such replica:
(i) Is not designed or redesigned for using
rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammuni-
tion, or
(ii) Uses rimfire or conventional centerfire
fixed ammunition which is no longer manufac-
tured in the United States and which is not readi-
ly available in the ordinary channels of commer-
cial trade.

 

[4v50 Gary]

Another vote for the Gatling. Just don't attach a fan belt to the handle and you'll be doing OK.