Whats the best red dot for a ak 47

[230therapy]

The OP is asking about red dots in the $50 range, not the 500 dollar range.

That being said, I wouldn't buy any BSA product. The last one I bought didn't work at all and they wanted me to return it to them and pay shipping both ways. Never mind that would cost more than their stupid product that didn't work in the first place. I told them I'll take it as a lesson learned and never purchase from them again.

Yes, and we're telling him we already wasted our money on the low end optics and ended up buying the high end optics after breaking all the cheap ones. It's better to have patience and put $25 a week toward a great optic than to buy the immediately available one.

 

[jon_in_wv]

I'm sorry, but I don't see the wisdom in recommending a $500 dollar optic for plinking under 100 yards, ESPECIALLY on an AK. You may feel the need to have some gee whiz optic that you can show how cool you are with but most people just don't really need it.

You can get a Bushnell Trophy Red Dot for $99 bucks that is very tough and works fine. You don't need to spend $500 to get something that doesn't break regardless of what someone told you and if someone says they can only afford to pay a certain amount I don't condescend to them by assuming they just aren't frugal or smart enough to spend more. I take them at their word.

 

[230therapy]

I'm sorry, but I don't see the wisdom in recommending a $500 dollar optic for plinking under 100 yards, ESPECIALLY on an AK. You may feel the need to have some gee whiz optic that you can show how cool you are with but most people just don't really need it.

Yes, I see you don't get it. You believe an AK is not capable of grouping well enough to warrant a quality optic.

Did it ever occur to you that one day the owner may decide to try that optic on another rifle? Suddenly, reliability becomes important when that red dot is on a hunting rifle or competition gun and it needs to perform for the entire day.

You can get a Bushnell Trophy Red Dot for $99 bucks that is very tough and works fine. You don't need to spend $500 to get something that doesn't break regardless of what someone told you and if someone says they can only afford to pay a certain amount I don't condescend to them by assuming they just aren't frugal or smart enough to spend more. I take them at their word.

You make too many assumptions about what's happening on this side of the keyboard.

 

[Cdigman]

To be fair, the title of the OP's post is "Whats the best red dot for a ak 47". I'd consider that akin to asking, "What's the best 9mm?", and then in the body of the post framing it, "I am going to start going to the gun range, I have $200 to spend, what's the best 9mm handgun?". Pretty much, people would recommend Hi Points, perhaps used guns, however, many would suggest that the OP save up for a Glock, Sig, M&P, etc. They would not be trying to be condescending, only attempting to offer good advice. And because those people choose not to use inexpensive weapons for range time or personal protection does not mean those people are unwise.
As far as Aimpoints and Eotechs go, yes they are not cheap, but I personally would not be owning one, because it is a "gee whiz optic", but more along the lines of, if I had to bet my life on my optics, I'd rather be certain that what I had will do the job.

 

[jon_in_wv]

Yes, I see you don't get it. You believe an AK is not capable of grouping well enough to warrant a quality optic.

Please show me where I said that? I'll save you the trouble because I didn't. It seems you are the one making assumptions. Besides, nothing I ever said was addressed to you in the first place until you interjected yourself into it.

 

[Cdigman]

Jon, please take the time to clarify exactly what you meant when you said, "I'm sorry, but I don't see the wisdom in recommending a $500 dollar optic for plinking under 100 yards, ESPECIALLY on an AK." Thanks.

 

[jon_in_wv]

For the benefit of the rest of the board, not the guy I just put on my ignore list, I was simply saying that buying an optic that is probably more expensive that the weapon it is going on when you aren't likely to get a lot more accuracy that you would get with the irons probably isn't the most frugal choice for someone who says their budget for said optic is in the $50 dollar range. I have a converted Saiga that is plenty accurate and I have in the past mounted a scope on it but the reality is there is very little gain in accuracy for the range you can use an AK at. I use a Bushnell trophy on it occasionally but there is very little to me gained my using a more expensive optic. I can bang away on steel plates at 200 yards with boring regularity with the Bushnell. Is a $500 dollar red dot going to let me do the same at 300y? or 400y? if the Bushnell can't? Nope.

 

[lebowski]

I shoot my AK with irons only. With a budget of only 50 bucks, I'd stick with irons.

 

[230therapy]

The red dot is really about speed. I certainly understand the desire for a low cost optic. But, the OP would be better served by either buying ammo or getting a solid optic. But, by all means buy a lower end optic for the fun factor.

Hits are very possible at 300 yards with the red dot on an AK. Sure, you may be getting 6 MOA out of the gun...but that's still 18" at 300 yards. Eighteen inch groups will still score torso hits. Better ammo and parts may pay off depending upon your gun's configuration. The AK is not a precision weapon and using an old barrel on a slapped together WASR with Wolf ammo is not the way to go in this instance. A weapon built with quality parts and fed good ammo can make a decent carbine.

Here's a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZO11glbkr4&feature=related

But, jon_in_wv isn't interested in what the AK can do. He's just making broad generalizations based upon his bias. He clearly is not interested in a rational discussion given he has blocked my comments.

 

[jon_in_wv]

I can bang away on steel plates at 200 yards with boring regularity with the Bushnell. Is a $500 dollar red dot going to let me do the same at 300y? or 400y? if the Bushnell can't? Nope.

If you are going to argue my point make sure it is actually the point I'm making rather than the one you wish I was making so you can try to start some inane argument. Thanks anyhow.