Bottom line is you don't need a 338 lapua for hunting...anything! A solid shot with a 300winmag can down anything, but a hippo and an elephant. Now if you want a 1500yd precision rifle it's the way to go. Two rounds are superior to it, 408 cheytac, and 416 barret. The 50bmg is nice, but as far as ballistics and accuracy it's not in my top 3. As for recoil that all depends on experience shooting and the setup of your rifle.
Whats the difference between 338 lapua and 338 winchester?
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You have me confused. Do you consider both the 300WM and 338WM slow? They seam about the same.
I have good luck with the following loads:
200 Gr. .455 BC MV 3150 F/Sec
225Gr. .550 BC MV 2900 F/Sec
Both muzzle velocities are backed of about 100 F/Sec from what I perceived to be a safe limit.
How would these compare in your ballistic calculator?
How can I order a ballistic calculator?
I have good luck with the following loads:
200 Gr. .455 BC MV 3150 F/Sec
225Gr. .550 BC MV 2900 F/Sec
Both muzzle velocities are backed of about 100 F/Sec from what I perceived to be a safe limit.
How would these compare in your ballistic calculator?
How can I order a ballistic calculator?
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Since I'm the first one who mentioned "slow", see post #67 for an explanation why I consider it, quote "338 Win Mag is basically a big, slow round for wholloping game" in post #11 back on July 3, 2007.
As for a ballistic calculator, you can use the free JBM online calculator referenced earlier in this thread.
As for a ballistic calculator, you can use the free JBM online calculator referenced earlier in this thread.
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Help with bullet choice.
I have not read every piece of this thread but lots of it every time I look for information I end up here. I need a bullet that will be precise extremely hard hitting and have a good trajectory between 200-1000 yards. I have been looking at .338 WM or .338 Lapua. Lapua seems to have more impact further out. I need to stop an overgrowth of hogs. They are generally 100-300 lbs but I have seen some monsters much bigger. I also have a mountain lion that I will not come in close except in the early morning. Which would be better for a head shot on large hogs and to get out many hundreds of yards for a cougar? I have hit the hogs in the shoulder with .270 heard the impact they looked at us and kept eating my deer corn.
I would look at a 50BMG also I want these things dispatched with extreme prejudice. My kids have not been able to hunt for two years. Affordable in my minds eye Armalite AR-30 Armalite AR-50A1. May sound bad but I want noticeable removal of flesh. Sorry not to be too descriptive but they are a large pain. My only other question is to get a scope I can't afford S&B but maybe Nightforce or Leupold is as high as I can go. You are the people that know this stuff any suggestions would help. THANKS for the help. When I loose all chickens a calf cats and most quail and rabbits it is time to terminate.
I have not read every piece of this thread but lots of it every time I look for information I end up here. I need a bullet that will be precise extremely hard hitting and have a good trajectory between 200-1000 yards. I have been looking at .338 WM or .338 Lapua. Lapua seems to have more impact further out. I need to stop an overgrowth of hogs. They are generally 100-300 lbs but I have seen some monsters much bigger. I also have a mountain lion that I will not come in close except in the early morning. Which would be better for a head shot on large hogs and to get out many hundreds of yards for a cougar? I have hit the hogs in the shoulder with .270 heard the impact they looked at us and kept eating my deer corn.
I would look at a 50BMG also I want these things dispatched with extreme prejudice. My kids have not been able to hunt for two years. Affordable in my minds eye Armalite AR-30 Armalite AR-50A1. May sound bad but I want noticeable removal of flesh. Sorry not to be too descriptive but they are a large pain. My only other question is to get a scope I can't afford S&B but maybe Nightforce or Leupold is as high as I can go. You are the people that know this stuff any suggestions would help. THANKS for the help. When I loose all chickens a calf cats and most quail and rabbits it is time to terminate.
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..."Affordable in my minds eye Armalite AR-30 Armalite AR-50A1. May sound bad but I want noticeable removal of flesh. Sorry not to be too descriptive but they are a large pain. My only other question is to get a scope I can't afford S&B but maybe Nightforce or Leupold is as high as I can go."...
the 30M in 338LM + NF 5.5x22 scope and mounts runs about 15lbs. [i haven't actually put it on a scale] this is an advantage, to me, from the get-go. even in it's own weight class, this is a light precision rifle. rivaling 308 winch precision rifles. nobody doubts the half inch browning has better next county ballistix than 338LM, but the weight of the iron is oppresive.
the muzz break is amazingly effective, and aided well by the thick [guessing] sorbothane butt pad. i'd put it as slightly less PERCIEVED recoil than a hard rubber pad on a 308 W shooting 168gr FGMM at around 12lbs, no muzzle device. recoil is not an issue with this system.
a previous poster mentioned muzzle blast induced fatigue. i'd say this guy has burned some powder in 338LM. same is NOT a fairy tale/fabrication on his part. the military has noted a degradation in shooter's accuracy from prolonged exposure from this load and 50BMG. the muzz break i highly praised above makes this aspect of shooting even worse. methinx Zak mentioned a can for one so chambered, good advice if prolonged shooting is part of the game plan.
yer face feels like one of the old g-force pictures of a mlitary pilot riding on the gravity-go-round. don't worry, the other kids at the range won't chide you about how silly your cartoon face looks. they won't be that close.
for a lower-end cost platform, the armalite gets good accuracy with backhills 300gr. likely, the floating bolt head at work. this based ~only on dialing it in~. as such, a a dedicated reloader might be well advised to get a standard bolt system instead. once the brass is formed to those unchanging chambers, i'd guess an accuracy benefit for second generation ammo.
i got the NP-R2 reticle. mounted on the AR's 15(?, not sure) minute rail, it'll getcha past 1,000yds with 300gr SMK, no cranking on the knobs. one of the bonuses is this is with a 200yd zero. Zak points out correctly that the "R1" has finer graduations for wind/elevation cypherin'. i still like the less busy offering. on the other end of the spectrum, if you want ultimate graph charted reticles, horus removes a good deal of guestimation, 'specially if you can spring for the whole meal deal Atrag. you can get the same percision with the R1 or R2 and a good program, in a device of less than milspec drop test proof quality. letcher wallet be in on these choices.
like you, i don't have homegrown range facilities that challange the abilities of this loading. to those who have/will state the obvious smaller/user friendlier/less expensive/more efficient/more accurate, etc.
i can hit a pig tearing up MORE hay field at 600yds with this @ 7.62x51 energy. if you think this load is just for the "my mag's bigger'n yer's" crowd, is that too much horsepower at that distance? not in my book. not being one who goes strictly by a ft lb format, the big 300gr, equalling 150 gr energy is much closer to my idea of a fool proof hunting penetrator. as mentioned above the solids will give better BC #'s. the penetration would benefit from them also. both at the cost of accelerated bore degradation from a poorer gas seal. this in a caliber that is already known to not be mr. rifling's friend.
gunnie
the 30M in 338LM + NF 5.5x22 scope and mounts runs about 15lbs. [i haven't actually put it on a scale] this is an advantage, to me, from the get-go. even in it's own weight class, this is a light precision rifle. rivaling 308 winch precision rifles. nobody doubts the half inch browning has better next county ballistix than 338LM, but the weight of the iron is oppresive.
the muzz break is amazingly effective, and aided well by the thick [guessing] sorbothane butt pad. i'd put it as slightly less PERCIEVED recoil than a hard rubber pad on a 308 W shooting 168gr FGMM at around 12lbs, no muzzle device. recoil is not an issue with this system.
a previous poster mentioned muzzle blast induced fatigue. i'd say this guy has burned some powder in 338LM. same is NOT a fairy tale/fabrication on his part. the military has noted a degradation in shooter's accuracy from prolonged exposure from this load and 50BMG. the muzz break i highly praised above makes this aspect of shooting even worse. methinx Zak mentioned a can for one so chambered, good advice if prolonged shooting is part of the game plan.
yer face feels like one of the old g-force pictures of a mlitary pilot riding on the gravity-go-round. don't worry, the other kids at the range won't chide you about how silly your cartoon face looks. they won't be that close.
for a lower-end cost platform, the armalite gets good accuracy with backhills 300gr. likely, the floating bolt head at work. this based ~only on dialing it in~. as such, a a dedicated reloader might be well advised to get a standard bolt system instead. once the brass is formed to those unchanging chambers, i'd guess an accuracy benefit for second generation ammo.
i got the NP-R2 reticle. mounted on the AR's 15(?, not sure) minute rail, it'll getcha past 1,000yds with 300gr SMK, no cranking on the knobs. one of the bonuses is this is with a 200yd zero. Zak points out correctly that the "R1" has finer graduations for wind/elevation cypherin'. i still like the less busy offering. on the other end of the spectrum, if you want ultimate graph charted reticles, horus removes a good deal of guestimation, 'specially if you can spring for the whole meal deal Atrag. you can get the same percision with the R1 or R2 and a good program, in a device of less than milspec drop test proof quality. letcher wallet be in on these choices.
like you, i don't have homegrown range facilities that challange the abilities of this loading. to those who have/will state the obvious smaller/user friendlier/less expensive/more efficient/more accurate, etc.
i can hit a pig tearing up MORE hay field at 600yds with this @ 7.62x51 energy. if you think this load is just for the "my mag's bigger'n yer's" crowd, is that too much horsepower at that distance? not in my book. not being one who goes strictly by a ft lb format, the big 300gr, equalling 150 gr energy is much closer to my idea of a fool proof hunting penetrator. as mentioned above the solids will give better BC #'s. the penetration would benefit from them also. both at the cost of accelerated bore degradation from a poorer gas seal. this in a caliber that is already known to not be mr. rifling's friend.
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So the 300GR should do the job? Will it leave ground meat where it hits? I am serious this needs to be one shot no nonsense illimination. Should I just live with the muzzle blast and get the AR-30? NF scope and Horus ATRAG best for the money? Can they take the blast from the .338 LM recoil? This is a much cheaper rifle than some of the $4000-up stuff I have looked at. I am curious as tough as the hogs are if i can make a head shot will it remove enough to drop them? They seem to be some very tough animals. What would be the most reasonable night optics if later I need to go that route? My cat problem may require night outings. Do I need the very expensive ATRAG or will the lesser priced ones work in hot and cold environments. At night in the winter it gets somewhat cold but the price jump is ouch BIG!!
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So the 300GR should do the job?
at <1,000, so would the 250gr, or even a well placed 308 would "do the job". i don't recognize "doing the job better" as pertaining. it will or won't, no gray area.
you will get much less wind deflection, and need much less "hold-over" than the many cartridges that will also work.. i think the 250 and 300gr energies converge near 1,000-only from memory-. the laze and kestral can lie to/trick you more with less consequence. the reason i used the 600 yd reference point is this is where the much more sensible 308 starts going flat in retained energy, and starts getting long in windage/elevation allowances.
one shot stops come from one stop shooters. let's not blame calibers for things they have no effect upon. in gear alone, bare bones minimum @ 1,000yds, fixed target-in an even, one direction wind...
1 accurate wind meter/weatherstation.
2 good laze
3 a means to determine the angle from level of target from shooter, if uneven terrain.
4 a math degree or-- intimate knowledge/cards of extended ballistics or --good program. one that allows for angle from level of shot, wind, humidity, temp, barometric pressure and range.
5 or, years of often getting to shoot this ammo for free with uncle sam. i can't foot that ammo/bbl bill.
the most i shot in one long range trip was 8 or so. no problems noticed. am sure Zak would be the better source for extended exposure reports.
i feel safe assuming the 300gr @ 1,000yds will exit a 300lb hawg, the long way. one hears hogzilla stories, but aside from what you have actually seen....
any of the scopes you mentioned will handle the recoil. i don't like the busy reticle in the horus, at any price. only my preference.
if you are considering night vision that comes near optic hunting quality that joe average is used to, you can afford an ex-military advisor to inform you on that, and do a much better job than i can. if the rifle/scope costs concern you, don't let night vision become even more of a distraction. chase the cat nocturnally with a surefire endowed shotgun or .223 semiauto, depending on expected range. he's only a problem near the house?
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at <1,000, so would the 250gr, or even a well placed 308 would "do the job". i don't recognize "doing the job better" as pertaining. it will or won't, no gray area.
you will get much less wind deflection, and need much less "hold-over" than the many cartridges that will also work.. i think the 250 and 300gr energies converge near 1,000-only from memory-. the laze and kestral can lie to/trick you more with less consequence. the reason i used the 600 yd reference point is this is where the much more sensible 308 starts going flat in retained energy, and starts getting long in windage/elevation allowances.
one shot stops come from one stop shooters. let's not blame calibers for things they have no effect upon. in gear alone, bare bones minimum @ 1,000yds, fixed target-in an even, one direction wind...
1 accurate wind meter/weatherstation.
2 good laze
3 a means to determine the angle from level of target from shooter, if uneven terrain.
4 a math degree or-- intimate knowledge/cards of extended ballistics or --good program. one that allows for angle from level of shot, wind, humidity, temp, barometric pressure and range.
5 or, years of often getting to shoot this ammo for free with uncle sam. i can't foot that ammo/bbl bill.
the most i shot in one long range trip was 8 or so. no problems noticed. am sure Zak would be the better source for extended exposure reports.
i feel safe assuming the 300gr @ 1,000yds will exit a 300lb hawg, the long way. one hears hogzilla stories, but aside from what you have actually seen....
any of the scopes you mentioned will handle the recoil. i don't like the busy reticle in the horus, at any price. only my preference.
if you are considering night vision that comes near optic hunting quality that joe average is used to, you can afford an ex-military advisor to inform you on that, and do a much better job than i can. if the rifle/scope costs concern you, don't let night vision become even more of a distraction. chase the cat nocturnally with a surefire endowed shotgun or .223 semiauto, depending on expected range. he's only a problem near the house?
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I promise hogzilla lives around here. Sounds like BS I know but I almost hit him in my truck at 65MPH. Thought it was a cow until he walked in front of me. How precise a shot would need to be made to make a .308 do the job? These things seem like armor plated tanks. I also have 50,000 acres next to me that will have to be considered as a problem area. My cat and coyotes go there breed up and come in and every once in a while I loose a calf. The neighbor will have to give me permission but I am going to ask her after I get a new gun that can do the job. One problem I have is the difference in a misplaced shot .308 versus .338. Heck I would use a fifty on the back of a jeep if I could get one and enough permission to hunt on the lands around me. The wild life of all types is vanishing and it is not people moving in. We have lost a calf almost all of our quail and rabbits and the deer are very slowly dropping in population. Let me ask a different way if for most things I used a .308 would an AR-30 be good for those few heavy far off shots? I was just hoping to only get one gun.
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I am asking these questions of you on this thread you have more knowledge and my only experience with these hogs is they have some kind of trauma plate!!!! I do appreciate the help. LOL [PB]
over bait, the AR "10" would be a better choice, what are your laws and time restraints? @ 200 meters, uncle sam says 150 grain ball ammo will go through about 4 feet of pine. two cinder blocks. up to half inch of mild steel.
the recurring twin trauma plates joke refers to the 338L design parameter of doing 5 layers of military body armor AND the bearer at 1,000M, or about 1,100yds. it has good long range penetration characteristics.
for quick, up close off hand shooting a 45/70 lever action with heavy lead bullets comes to mind.
however, an african game control officer routinely used an FAL with 7.62x51 ball ammo to dispatch many (30+) problem elephants.
the line between cartridge stopping power, and an immediate stop cartridge is a very wide one.
i don't feel the 338LM fueled AR30M with scope set at 5.5 (lowest) X would be a good short range weapon for quick moving megapigs.
you have to set the mission parameters, one size never fits all.
gunnie
the recurring twin trauma plates joke refers to the 338L design parameter of doing 5 layers of military body armor AND the bearer at 1,000M, or about 1,100yds. it has good long range penetration characteristics.
for quick, up close off hand shooting a 45/70 lever action with heavy lead bullets comes to mind.
however, an african game control officer routinely used an FAL with 7.62x51 ball ammo to dispatch many (30+) problem elephants.
the line between cartridge stopping power, and an immediate stop cartridge is a very wide one.
i don't feel the 338LM fueled AR30M with scope set at 5.5 (lowest) X would be a good short range weapon for quick moving megapigs.
you have to set the mission parameters, one size never fits all.
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I am having trouble explaining this but I will try. I have no problem if the .308 will do the job my .270 has not done it yet. One of the places there has 50,000 acres next to it and if I can get permission that would be where the cat is. This cat has been in my barn with at least 7 kids about 50 feet in a house of course but they do go out at times. That is one area that is having a problem. The coyotes I know can be killed with very little bullet. The other place has a pipeline right of way that is from 200-1000 yards of clear open area and I can not get to the hogs sometimes but I see them at the long end of that equation. I may can borrow a .308 from somebody to try. I will say I do not want to be any closer to those little monsters than I have to be. The man who taught me to hunt was retired UDT and I never saw him even smirk at anything but Texas hogs. He was not really enthused about ever being in a pasture with one again. He had a bad experience if he was still alive he could help me but he is not. He told me when I was young if hogs ever gutted a horse I was on to run like hell to get out of the pasture I listened. He was one of the toughest men I have ever known. That is why I want the biggest baddest thing to knock them down with from a long way off. I am already considering a 45-70 for close work. I really only have a brittish .303 or .270 to work with at this point. So I am listening to what you are saying shells are very high for .338 LM.
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***I also have 50,000 acres next to me that will have to be considered as a problem area***
Thats uh, 78.125 square miles ( or sections - 640 acres in a square), I don't think caliber matters. We are getting into volume of fire now.
Depending on rainfall, 8-11 acres for a cow in Oklahoma, west of I-35, 3-10 acres per cow east of it. Just generally speaking.
50,000 acres divided by roughly ( arbitrarily ) 5 acres per swine equals 10k of those suckers able to be sustained on that property.
A hog drive would be a lot cheaper than feeding any .338 pea shooter, let alone a Lapua.
Any 30 caliber or up chambering is gonna work great, shooting distance - well, the best caliber for that is all over the 'net.
A 300 win would work out perfectly at a distance you could make the shot. A ton of practice would be more important at the ranges you are thinking than the caliber.
I'd invest in a VERY good range finder - and I don't think Leica is good enough for your needs.
Thats uh, 78.125 square miles ( or sections - 640 acres in a square), I don't think caliber matters. We are getting into volume of fire now.
Depending on rainfall, 8-11 acres for a cow in Oklahoma, west of I-35, 3-10 acres per cow east of it. Just generally speaking.
50,000 acres divided by roughly ( arbitrarily ) 5 acres per swine equals 10k of those suckers able to be sustained on that property.
A hog drive would be a lot cheaper than feeding any .338 pea shooter, let alone a Lapua.
Any 30 caliber or up chambering is gonna work great, shooting distance - well, the best caliber for that is all over the 'net.
A 300 win would work out perfectly at a distance you could make the shot. A ton of practice would be more important at the ranges you are thinking than the caliber.
I'd invest in a VERY good range finder - and I don't think Leica is good enough for your needs.
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My problem on this place is just what you have described too much land and it is not mine. I can see a large portion of it but not all. I saw a fire on it one day and no one called the fire department but me. I happen to be on a hill and can see several miles across. So if in the 30 caliber range what would shoot the flattest a .308? I can not have any hog drive or even get anyone else involved. But there are many animals that breed there no one has seen except her hunters every winter. They have to have walky talkies to talk it is so big. We here them sometimes and talk to them on our walkies. But from end of deer season until bird season no one is even there. That is when we were missing our calf. Texas is a big place but getting very small too quick. Sorry one other question the reason i got on this thread was the .338 LM vs. .338 Win Mag. The size of the bullet was the only factor but I know .308 flies far well so there is my dilemma.
..."and I don't think Leica is good enough for your needs"...
'specially not on non reflective critter hair.
and picking a reflective object "close" to the same range never is.
however, on your own land, you could pre-range hotspots by having a friend move a reflective object around. drive a car around to current diggings. they seem to come back to the same spots until the soft soil is dug up.
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'specially not on non reflective critter hair.
and picking a reflective object "close" to the same range never is.
however, on your own land, you could pre-range hotspots by having a friend move a reflective object around. drive a car around to current diggings. they seem to come back to the same spots until the soft soil is dug up.
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I am glad I quit trolling and started asking questions. What is a good range finder? I just bought a Nikon thinking they were all similar. I am used to hunting deer and quail and javelina. Now I really feel like I better ask a lot of questions. Suggestions on Gun, Range finder and whatever I might need besides lots of target practice time. I am not a bad shot but it looks like I did not have a clue what I was doing. 200-400 yards must be much different than 400-1000. Thanks though for helping I feel like I am back in training and willing to listen if you do not mind. Gunnie thank you for all the knowledge. Everyone else also.
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What I might start with is what kind of bullet is it going to take to penetrate a hog either in the shoulder which is plated with gristle or cartilidge or get through their thick skulls? I do not think I can hit the ear hole. Since it looks like .338 LM is too much overkill. I understand people have killed elephants with .308 but is that enough energy to go through whatever it is hogs have? Is a 7mm since it is only .284 slightly larger than a .270 enough or is there a good 30 caliber with some serious weight to it that will not have to be lobbed out there.
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varmintprob,
If your .270 is not penetrating on a shoulder shot on hogs, you need better bullets. I have killed a few hundred wild hogs, big and small, and witnessed over a thousand more "harvested"......if you use a relatively "hard" expanding bullet in your .270, you will have no trouble penetrating all the way through any wild hog you will encounter, within range that you can reasonably engage the hog.
Think Nosler Partition, Barnes TTX, not CoreLokt or Ballistic Tip.
You certainly do not need a .338 Lapua to kill hogs.....unless you need engagement distance greater than say 800 yards or so.....if you need that kind of range, I suggest you get a rifle chambered in a cartridge you can afford to practice with more often. The .338 LM is not a cartridge to learn to shoot LR with.....also, the .338 LM is not just an expensive round to load and shoot, it is expensive all the way around. The rifles are generally expensive. The have heavy recoil, so they need really good scopes, bases, and rings. These cost $$$$$.
BTW, I hear your frustration....wild hogs are a pain.......I have been dealing with them and their issues for years. I still load extra ammo every year, just to shoot hogs with....
Get a little closer, and shoot a bit better bullets. Your .270 will be fine. If you don't reload, Federal Premium with the 150 Nosler Partition will do just fine. Even on the biggest boars, under 350 yards, you will have a nice exit hole.
varmintprob,
If your .270 is not penetrating on a shoulder shot on hogs, you need better bullets. I have killed a few hundred wild hogs, big and small, and witnessed over a thousand more "harvested"......if you use a relatively "hard" expanding bullet in your .270, you will have no trouble penetrating all the way through any wild hog you will encounter, within range that you can reasonably engage the hog.
Think Nosler Partition, Barnes TTX, not CoreLokt or Ballistic Tip.
You certainly do not need a .338 Lapua to kill hogs.....unless you need engagement distance greater than say 800 yards or so.....if you need that kind of range, I suggest you get a rifle chambered in a cartridge you can afford to practice with more often. The .338 LM is not a cartridge to learn to shoot LR with.....also, the .338 LM is not just an expensive round to load and shoot, it is expensive all the way around. The rifles are generally expensive. The have heavy recoil, so they need really good scopes, bases, and rings. These cost $$$$$.
BTW, I hear your frustration....wild hogs are a pain.......I have been dealing with them and their issues for years. I still load extra ammo every year, just to shoot hogs with....
Get a little closer, and shoot a bit better bullets. Your .270 will be fine. If you don't reload, Federal Premium with the 150 Nosler Partition will do just fine. Even on the biggest boars, under 350 yards, you will have a nice exit hole.
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My problem is I can not get a trapper in here to get some of these critters gone. The pigs I will shoot with anything at this point. I will try those shells. But we have tooooo many coyotes and at least one to many big freaking cats. The pigs I am going to try some different techniques have gotten some good information on how to get them in closer today. But I was also told to get something with serious impact. I do not have dogs that can hunt them so I am going to try some corn specially treated. I will try to find some of those Federal Premiums with 150 Nosler Partitions. Around here any ammo is hard to find. I looked for 3 months for .38's for my sons.
listen to Will, the 270 is a good flat shooter with light loads, and will take big piggies with tough heavy bullets.
jack o'connor thought pretty highly of the .270, and he did a buncha hunting with them.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/column12_jack_o_connor.htm
gunnie
jack o'connor thought pretty highly of the .270, and he did a buncha hunting with them.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/column12_jack_o_connor.htm
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Will Fennell I am looking and found some nosler partitions but the Barnes TTX is that Triple shock X? Sorry I thought all that were out there was 110 130 140 gr. with variations. Now I can find Nosler partitions none in stock. But I have found the triple shock X available in Federal and Cor-Bon. Either one better than the other? Is this even the right bullet?
Your problem is not hitting your target mr. varmintprob. Your 270 would do the job fine with any good hunting bullet. It is a friggin pig not an "ork". Either you are pulling our leg or you are one ignorant fella. hogs are killed all the time with handguns and you can not get one down with a 270? (BTW I shoot a 338 lm) A hunter could kill your pigs or cats with a 22 long rifle.
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Well maybe it is the bullet maybe I am not the smartest about all this but I have never had a problem with any thing I have shot at until these vermin. I now understand I was using a deer cartridge not the right thing. But why do you need to be a jerk? I have had maybe 60 shells to shoot in my .270 in my life. Nearly every one has taken a deer the others are still with me. I did not know that hogs had a special ear hole shot that would knock them out. My son took the shot so maybe he hit it in the wrong place. I do know I heard it hit. What ever an ORK is I do not know but sir you are just rude. I myself would like to remove them in pieces that is one stinking item I will never eat again unless I get hungry very hungry.
leftymachinist
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Hi everyone, finally getting around to checking out more posts on this forum. Seems to me that whatever is new, especially in militaria people think it's a gotta' have item. History shows that what is old is new again. Back in the '60s, there was an outfit in Pennsylvania, called the 1,000 yd. rifle club, and one of many wildcats used there was the .338-378 Weatherby. This cartridge looks to have a similar case capacity to that
.338 Lapua everyone so enamored with. As for me I'll stick with my '06, although a .300 Weatherby would look good in my collection.
.338 Lapua everyone so enamored with. As for me I'll stick with my '06, although a .300 Weatherby would look good in my collection.
Ratdog68
Member
.338 Lapua= 02 dead Taliban in excess of 1.5mi for the new distance record.
http://kitup.military.com/2010/05/brit-makes-record-sniper-kill-in-afghanistan.html
http://kitup.military.com/2010/05/brit-makes-record-sniper-kill-in-afghanistan.html
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