What's the law about my neighbor shooting onto my property

[Red Wind]

Only an attorney is going to be able to thread through this morass (or Blue Grass ) as Frank Ettin stated in post #10.

I sure would like to have this problem, holding 340 acres, if I gotta have a problem!

 

[shiftyer1]

If my neighbor owned a tractor with a bucket and he offered to make me a dirt pile if I paid for fuel........I'd jump at the chance. It would make you feel safer and in his eyes improve his range and maybe make a friend or at least a tolerable neighbor.

 

[alsaqr]

All too often folks buy small parcels of land and start shooting, sometimes totally oblivious of where the bullets are landing.

The guy owns seven acres of land. A 300 yard firing range on seven acres is pushing it. An acre = 208.71 feet square.

 

[pjeski]

... ask the local police this question and or the game commission authorities if you neighbor can legally do this.

IMHO, asking the police or the game commission authorities questions about the law is not a good idea. The police are never a source of good legal advice.

 

[Good Ol' Boy]

All too often folks buy small parcels of land and start shooting, sometimes totally oblivious of where the bullets are landing.

The guy owns seven acres of land. A 300 yard firing range on seven acres is pushing it. An acre = 208.71 feet square.

I agree 100%.


I'm currently on 3acres semi rural, meaning there are other homes near us on 3-10acre lots and there's a 200acre farm right across the road.

There are other local legalities to be considered other than just land size. I hear other folks shooting regularly that I can tell are not that far from me, and, under slightly different circumstances I could shoot on our property. However, local county law dictates not shooting within 100yrds of a public road or 100yrds of another home. Although there are a couple other laws that also restrict us where we are at, those are the main two.

Point is, I know there are folks out there who if they lived where I do would not hesitate to shoot, even if it was in a fairly safe direction. But you gotta be aware of local laws. Just because you live "rural" doesn't mean you can legally shoot where you're at.

 

[Acera]

The guy owns seven acres of land. A 300 yard firing range on seven acres is pushing it. An acre = 208.71 feet square.

What!!?? An acre = 43,560 square feet.

The 208.71 feet is the length of one side of a single acre if all sides are equal (meaning it's a square).



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[kitsapshooter]

Everyone is speculating. until the OP tells us what county he is in anything wee say is of minor value. The rules in Estill county maybe different from Harlen county.
Once again someone asking for help without providing key data to allow us to help..

 

[CapnMac]

Originally Posted by alsaqr View Post
The guy owns seven acres of land. A 300 yard firing range on seven acres is pushing it. An acre = 208.71 feet square.

Ok, 60' setback, plus 30' for a house is 90'--so, 300 yards gives up a target figure of 990'. So 7 * 43,560 / 990 = 308' wide.

Let's round that to about 300' x 1015' which is a very odd lot size.

Which, in my 38 years of architectural practice sounds more like a watershed or utility easement. But, it sounds like this place is only 100 yards wide, so the neighbor is likely not 100 yards from anything, other than the farmer out back.

So, yeah--no pun intended--this guy (the neighbor)needs to mend some fences. Like 12 feet of backstop, 18 if there's more thana 5% slope, possibly more.

 

[alsaqr]

The 208.71 feet is the length of one side of a single acre if all sides are equal (meaning it's a square).

Re-read this part:

An acre = 208.71 feet square.

 

[Acera]

Re-read this part:

An acre = 208.71 feet square.

Why what you posted is incorrect, I assume English is not your first language??

An acre is 43,560 square feet. There is no common measurement called 'feet square' that is not considered to be 'square feet'.

Now if you think that the square is 208.71 is the distance you walk around it, that is also wrong. 208.71 is the length of one side if it is a perfect square, so 4 x 208.71 = 834.84 would be the distance if you walked around one acre (again assuming a perfect square.)


What point are you trying to make with that number????



http://www.infoplease.com/askeds/dimensions-acre.html

http://www.thecalculatorsite.com/articles/units/how-big-is-an-acre.php





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[alsaqr]

Why what you posted is incorrect, I assume English is not your first language??

There is no common measurement called 'feet square' that is not considered to be 'square feet'.

May i assume comprehension is not your strong point:

Date: 11/22/98 at 15:05:12
From: Doctor Rick
Subject: Re: The difference between 2 sq. ft. and 2 ft. square

Hi, Natalie,

"2 feet square" refers to a square that is 2 feet on a side, that is,
2 feet by 2 feet.

"2 square feet" is a measure of area. It can refer to any shape (a
rectangle 1 foot by 2 feet, for instance).

The area of a 2-foot square is 4 square feet (2 feet * 2 feet).

http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/58411.html

 

[Acera]

alsaqr, again I ask what exactly are you trying to point out with that number???

Most using that terminology don't use it the way you did.



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[blackangus]

I should have included the neighbors property is 1200 feet long and a rectangle. His house where he shoots from is 150 feet from a public road and he shoots away from the road mostly parallel to the length of his property. Actually I own beside and to the rear. The 300 yards was an estimate,
And for those discussing county it's Boone County KY.

Thank you all for your comments.

 

[ljnowell]

alsaqr, again I ask what exactly are you trying to point out with that number???

Most using that terminology don't use it the way you did.



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[pdsmith505]

As a non-resident of KY, I am not familiar with the laws there from experience. However, Finding the KY statutes was easy enough (see previous discussion) HERE.

Same story for Boone County KY HERE.

That being said, using the site's search function, the Boone County KY ordinances contain nothing about the discharge of firearms.

 

[Ed Ames]

alsaqr, again I ask what exactly are you trying to point out with that number???

Most using that terminology don't use it the way you did.



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It is used all the time and I didn't have any trouble understanding him. Personally I tend to reverse the words for clarity, e.g. 330 feet square is 2.5 acres or slightly more than one hectare, but it is understandable either way.

 

[Christopher B]

Wanton Endangerment

I am not a lawyer, but "wanton endangerment" seems to fit this situation:

http://www.oakgroveattorney.com/blog/2015/06/what-is-wanton-endangerment-in-kentucky.shtml

 

[au_prospector]

C'mon man!

Seriously, get on GOOGLE and start here!

http://library.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Kentucky/booneco/boonecountykentuckycodeofordinances?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:booneco_ky

You have already asked and answered an the interweb forum of world wide users very few of which are attorneys or Boone County experts how they feel, at some point you have to do your own homework :banghead: and spend some money on local expert legal advice.

 

[Midwest]

I should have included the neighbors property is 1200 feet long and a rectangle. His house where he shoots from is 150 feet from a public road and he shoots away from the road mostly parallel to the length of his property. Actually I own beside and to the rear. The 300 yards was an estimate,
And for those discussing county it's Boone County KY.

Thank you all for your comments.

Um....I am 'somewhat' familiar with Boone County. With 340 acres. I 'd say that might be further out toward Rabbit Hash rather than closer in by Burlington. Although I have seen some cattle farms off of 237 in Burlington. Anyway, howdy neighbor and good luck.

 

[plodder]

blackangus:
I can appreciate your angst about someone shooting in the direction of your property & loved ones. Apart from the legal technicalities, I would suggest you consider having a conversation with him asking him to inform you when he is shooting out your way to make sure all are safe. In trade-off perhaps you could work out something mutually beneficial like a 300+ yard range that works for both of you. (Wish I had one!)

 

[MistWolf]

...what is the law?

Talk to your lawyer and find out. As other have suggested talk to your neighbor and see if the two of you can resolve this

 

[Jim K]

It is not the distance to the target that counts for safety, it is the maximum range of the firearm you are shooting that counts. In other words not how far it is to the target but how far the bullet can go at maximum elevation. And with a rifle like a .30-'06, that is a pretty good distance - around 3400 yards, or about 2 miles, not the hundred yards or so folks are talking about.

And backstops don't count unless it is either impossible to elevate the rifle barrel enough (some kind of restraint) or a pretty big object (like a hill) that will be literally impossible to miss, and impossible to shoot through. (You can't be sure a rifle won't go off with the barrel pointed upward if that can be done.)

Jim

P.S. Sorry, Acera, it is your belief that is wrong. The use of the term "x feet square" to indicate the length of a side of a square is perfectly valid, though easy to misunderstand. A 2' x 2' square is 4 square feet, but only two feet square. But 4 square feet can be of any shape whereas 4 feet square can only be a 4' x 4' square.

JK

 

[Art Eatman]

Looks like it's up to the OP to decide on what part of the posted advice is of utility. Enuf.