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Whats your Assault Rifle of choice

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by LockingBlock, Nov 6, 2008.

  1. LockingBlock

    LockingBlock New Member

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    Please Direct me if this has been posted before. I can't find the info I'm looking for.

    I figure I should buy an Assault Rifle but to many different kinds to choose from.
    I got 2,000.00 for the gun. The rest of my money is going to ammo, mags, scope, Ect.

    I like the Sig556 and the FN F2000 but I don't know anything about assault rifles so I might be missing out on one that I never heard of.

    What should I be doing? What would you do?

    PS. I don't want a standard ar15. everyone has one. Does that make sense?

    Help me out.
    Thanks guys.
     
  2. Bartkowski

    Bartkowski Senior Member

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    No, there is a reason people have them. They are relatively affordable and very good rifles. You could spend a lot more to get only a slight advantage over an AR. If you change your mind I may be able to help more.
     
  3. chris in va

    chris in va Senior Member

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    The 556 and FAL are quite heavy. I much prefer a decent AK over those two. I converted my Saiga and couldn't be happier. Total cost...$500.

    They also come in 308 and 223 if you're so inclined.
     
  4. PFCLEE11B

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    well the f2000 is a good rifle. it is compact a bullup so it is accurate. the only problem it is not modular so there is no switching calibers. of the 2 you would be the best to go with the SIG as it is modular and you can do about anything with it
     
  5. Golden Hound

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    What you're talking about isn't really an assault rifle because it's not select-fire. What you're talking about is a semiautomatic rifle with a pistol grip and the ability to take 20 or 30 round magazines.

    If your budget is $2,000 and you don't want to go the AR route, the Sig sounds like a great choice. I've never actually used one but I only hear good things about them. If you want a .308, consider a FAL or an HK91. I like to plug the HK91 because I have one and I think it's under-rated. People often write that it has a bad trigger compared to other .308 battle rifles - when I bought mine, it already had a trigger job done to it so I can't really comment on that, but to get one done I have heard is only about 50 dollars. They also say the recoil is very hard but I totally disagree, I find it to be very manageable. It doesn't strike me as being much harder than my SKS. But that's just me. The Heckler and Koch model is overpriced - the PTR91 version, made in America, is about half your budget and is said to be just as good if not better in quality.

    The FAL is quite popular around here - you may want to check that out too. DSA makes the best FALs other than the original FN model, or so I've heard.
     
  6. LockingBlock

    LockingBlock New Member

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    Thanks guys.

    I will maybe go back to consider some AR15's.
    I didn't even know about the FAL andHK91

    I just read that the FN f2000 does not accept the beta c mag so I'm going to rule that one out.

    HEY! who makes a good new ak47 now days?
     
  7. Rubber_Duck

    Rubber_Duck Senior Member

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    My "assault rifle" of choice is the AK. Can't go wrong with one, and with the money you have you will have plenty left for mucho ammo.
     
  8. Prepster

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    I've often drooled over 1873 Winchesters, America's original assault rifle.

    I saw a Calico (I think) that held 50 rounds of 9mm in a strange looking top-mounted magazine. I'd like one of those just because it's different. If not a quality AK would fit the bill.
     
  9. LockingBlock

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    Who makes and where do I buy these Good new ak47's? I have only ever seen army surplus at gun shows and they are old and all rusted. They probably work like new but I would prefer a new one.
     
  10. Defense Minister

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    You may also consider the Armalite AR10 if you go looking into a .308. That's what I would buy if I could get my wife on board with the expenditure part of the aquisition.

    Springfield Armory M1As are also great in the .308 caliber.
     
  11. LockingBlock

    LockingBlock New Member

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    ar10 looks awesome!
    Thanks Defense Minister
     
  12. Joey_the_Wolf

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    An FN FNC.

    Why? I'll tell you why. It's been written in history that Dieudonne Saive started designing the FAL back in 1947. THIS IS A LIE.

    What happened is the U.S. Government secured cloning technology out of Nazi Germany. It was going to be used by Hitler to clone himself (and their best soldiers). It worked, but there were complications of life-span with the rapid aging with the technology the Germans were using, so it was abandoned in favor of more direct projects to help the Nazi war effort. After the war came to a close, documents proving its existence were found in Berlin, and the technology was confiscated before the evil commies were able to get their grubby mitts on it.

    Several years went by with some trials and success. Once the Western powers discovered the existence of the AK-47, they realized they needed something to combat against it. Something even better. But, for once actually, the communists actually did something well other than subjurgating peasants. Diudonne Saive tried multiple times, yet nothing was found to rival the AK-47.

    It was at this time that the West got desperate. While going through German secret documents captured during the war, FN engineers found the details of the German cloning machine. They realized this would be their only hope... They decided to clone John Moses Browning.

    American authorities were quickly dispatched to John Moses Browning's grave in Ogden, UT. His body was quickly exhumed in the middle of the night and replaced with a decoy body and coffin. His remaining family members were paid off and told it was for national security reasons. The truth never got out. His body was then flown to Belgium in secret, and there the Nazi cloning machine was utilized in making a clone of John Moses Browning.

    They succeeded.

    John Moses Prowning was then re-made. His advanced aging process gene made him age approximately one year per month. Soon, he was an adult and was trained in the history of his life, education, and surroundings. Soon, he was ready to help develop the new rifle for the West.

    John Moses Browning (Junior, his colleagues called him), had a difficult time at first, but he naturally adapted and overcame. Through many prototypes, the FN FAL was born. It was obvious, instantly, that the West had prevailed.

    As years went by, JMB Junior aged even more. Then, as he lay dying, FN came to him at his death bed and asked him if he had any last words of requests.

    He said, “Make the FAL an assault rifle”. It was 1954. John Moses Browning Junior soon died after he said that, at the supposed age of 83. FN engineers didn't know what to do. But they set out to comply with JMB Junior's wishes. 12 years later, after much toil and effort, they did with the FN CAL – which later became perfected as the FN FNC.

    And THAT my friends, is why I'd pick an FN FNC rifle... :)


    In all seriousness though, they are fun little rifles.
     
  13. meef

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    No.

    And I don't have any choice of assault rifle. I don't own any assault rifles.

    I do have a reasonable collection of firearms, but none of them have or are going to assault anybody.

    :cool:
     
  14. TonyDedo

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    Get an M14/M1A, put it in a Troy Chassis:

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    That is one bad ass rifle!!!
     
  15. LockingBlock

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    ummm... thanks for the story. I think. I will look into the FN FNC further.

    That MCR 308 is bad ass looking.:)
     
  16. Girodin

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    Your budget pretty much leaves things wide open. There are many good choices but much depends on how you plan to use it and what capabilities you expect and/or how you rank them in importance.

    Aside from what has been mentioned I will throw a few more options out.

    The XRC.

    If you like bullpups like the FS 2000 you should look at the AUG clones. I have experience with the Micro tech stg 556 and really like it. There is another aug clone that takes AR mags which I would prefer but I dont know anything about this one.
     
  17. cliffy

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    Since I don't wish to ASSAULT anyone . . .

    I don't own an "ASSAULT" rifle. Civilian AR-15 rifles are not effective assault rifles. They can barely be considered self-defense rifles. When IRAN attacks America, you'll note how ineffective AR-15s truly are. At that time, I'll post my most potent .223 Remington handloads for use in AR-15 defense weapons. Fighting for one's homeland is what makes Americans great. cliffy
     
  18. TonyDedo

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    It's not just the look - it's an amazing rifle to shoot. The best of both worlds between the AR and the M14. I put mine together for just over $2000, built on a Fed Ord receiver with USGI parts.

    Fed Ord M14 - $900
    Troy Chassis - $540
    Troy BUIS - $200
    LMT Sopmod stock - $250
    Ergo grip - $20
    EOTech - $300
     
  19. ArchAngelCD

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    LockingBlock,
    There is no such thing as an "Assult Rifle" so please try and stop using those words. Those are the words of the anti-gun groups used to try and scare all the sheeple.

    Why not buy an AR with a 5.56X45 upper and add a 7.62X39 upper to cover all your bases. As a matter of fact,
    add a .22 LR upper in case you need to hunt small game for food.
     
  20. Golden Hound

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    There sure is such thing as an assault rifle. It's just that the rifles in America that people own aren't assault rifles. A real assault rifle is select-fire and fires an intermediate cartridge. The AK-47 and M-16 are genuine assault rifles. It's a legitimate term. It just needs to never be applied to the semi-automatic military-style weapons that we own - because THAT does feed into the hands of the Brady people.

    "Assault Weapon" on the other hand is definitely an invented term, created by the anti gun people.
     
  21. bkb0000

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    Everyone doesn't have ARs... very few people have ARs. A lot of GUN people have ARs, because gun people know guns, and know it's a superior platform. There's no other platform as customizable... these are just random pics of various peoples' ARs... non-AR guys wouldn't even be able to identify some of these. Each of these were probably built at just around $2,000 (excluding optics)
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  22. nagl0c

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    I have a Sig 556 and an SW MP-15.

    Sig has a killer trigger...just awesome. Not a big fan of the handguards that come stock, however. I eventually want to put the old 551 handguards on it. I LOVE how easy it is to break down and clean though. It is a bit on the heavy side, and the sights that come standard SUCK. But overall, a great gun.

    The SW MP-15 has MUCH better iron sights. Rear sight is flip up and works great. It does take about an hour to completely break down and clean though...much longer than it takes for the Sig. It's got good balance and shoots great. It's a much lighter weapon. I picked this up for just at $1,000. For that price, I got the gun and a case of 1,000 rounds for the same price I paid for the Sig.
     
  23. BADUNAME37

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    Special Permit Required?.......

    Does one need a special permit to install that vertical foregrip that is attached to the lower rail?

    I thought one was needed (some sort of ATF stamp or something), but I'm just checking.

    I don't have one, but I may know of someone who (I think) does have one.
     
  24. LKB3rd

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    For a new AK, your best bet(possibly your only choice) is a Saiga. You can convert it to its original AK configuration yourself, or buy one pre converted. Both would leave a ton of room in your budget for ammo and other goodies. I have one in .308 that I like a lot, because CT considers one in 7.62x39 to be scary and is banned, while other calibers (even more powerful ones like .308) are not.
     
  25. spyderdude

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    The AR-15 is a good platform, and the ability to switch to different calibers simply by changing out the uppers is nice. If you're familiar with building them, it should take you maybe half hour to an hour to build one from a stripped lower. Give two hours for a first timer. I've been thinking about building my own AR-15, and should at least grab a stripped lower while I still can. Having been a big fan of the AK-47 rifle, I've avoided the AR platform for a long time, that is until I shot one at a local range. Low recoil and the ability to carry lots of ammo makes it a fun gun to shoot. Two months ago I decided to purchase my first black rifle, the Smith & Wesson M&P15. I'm quite pleased with it too!

    I enjoy the AK and AR platforms equally.
     

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