What's YOUR favorite? Colt 1860 Army .44 or Remington 58 New Army .44 and why?

[avatarshots]

Willie, what's a LGS?

 

[CraigC]

Did you have that done, do it yourself or buy it like that?

Thanks! I had it engraved by Michael Gouse and refinished by Turnbull. I'll eventually have something similar done to my 1860 Richards Type II, or something like it.

 

[BowerR64]

Willie, what's a LGS?

Its the Local Gun Shop, its where you get to handle everything before you order it online from Cabelas. lol

 

[avatarshots]

So I did wind up going to the gun shop this morning, and they still had the Belgian 1860 Army. It seems to be in excellent condition or maybe even never fired!

 

[Armored farmer]

I like the '58 remington best. It seems to me that it loads easier, shoots better, balances better, I believe the topstrap makes it stronger. That being said...it seems to foul faster than my 51 Navy.

...A tough choice, but I say Remington '58.

BTW I officially challenge CraigC to an arm rasslin' match and the winner takes that fine lookin' knife and scabbard in post #27.

 

[Crawdad1]

Avatar, you just bought yourself a world class percussion revolver and in perfect shape, good job!!!!

 

[avatarshots]

Thanks Crawdad1 now I'm trying to find out when THIS one was actually made. It has a relatively low serial number #4608

 

[Willie Sutton]

It's a beauty, and the box makes it even better. There will be a prefix on the front of the cylinder, as well as other markings, that will tell it's story. You will want to fill out a sheet and get the information to our friend in Germany, who will place it in the database and let you know exactly what varient it is, as there are several. Go to the website I linked, find the page with the checklist, and determine what you have. In the box, in that condition, it's an easy $500 revolver.

LGS = Local Gun Shop.


Willie

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[Crawdad1]

I agree contact them. Plus they will tell you where to get spare parts such as nipples and stuff if you need them.

 

[avatarshots]

Thanks Willie and Crawdad! I'll do that right now.

 

[kituwa]

Do the Belgian colts have the progressive twist rifling in the barrel?

 

[BCRider]

I saw this the other day and didn't really know how to answer. I still don't.

I've got a pair of Uberti Remingtons and a pair of mixed brand 1860's. All are in .44 like proper smoke guns should be. I would not want to have to toss a coin to give up either pair.

Can we vote "both"?

 

[avatarshots]

BCRider- yeah BOTH is good answer. For me at this moment I'm looking at the workmanship of this Belgian Colt 1860 (1960 Centennial) that from the serial number was made between 1963 and 1965. You can really see the difference in manufacturing. I have a new respect for 1860. I'll see how it shoots in the morning then I'll know which model I prefer best, or, like you, I might like Colt and Remmy equally

 

[CraigC]

I officially challenge CraigC to an arm rasslin' match and the winner takes that fine lookin' knife and scabbard in post #27.

Gonna do a beaded sheath for that knife before next season.

 

[whughett]

The Ruger Old Army of course!

Yep, hands down.

 

[rockdc]

for actually shooting? Ruger Old Army. No question. My early 70s Lyman Uberti 1858 is nice but it feels like a toy in comparison. The Ruger is no toy.

 

[shafter]

I prefer Colts to Remingtons by a wide margin. I think the 1860 and 1851 look equally nice, but the '60 feels just a bit better in my hand and points like a dream. Cleaning is a piece of cake with the barrel removed.

I don't have anything against the Remington but it doesn't fit my hand well and it doesn't point well.

 

[CraigC]

The Ruger is no toy.

Spend enough time with a Dragoon or Walker and they will all feel like toys.

 

[avatarshots]

I don't consider this Belgian Centennial 1860-1960 Colt a toy. This one has been boxed since 1965. I woke her up today. Her first 6 shots after her long nap.

 

[Crawdad1]

Where in the heck did you find that?

Lodi Ohio?

 

[avatarshots]

Crawdad1
Would you believe Culver City California?

 

[NCWanderer]

It's a no brainer. I like the 1858 Remington much better.

NC

 

[PRM]

Hard decisions...

I started out with the Colts and over the years have owned several of the 2nd Generation and Signature Series Colt 1860s. The 1860s were great guns, I just always liked the Navy Caliber better in the Colt. Mainly because I favor the Pocket Models for ease of carry and the full size in the same caliber always held a plus. I did outfit my 2nd generations with pre-ban elephant ivory grips (by Jerry Meacham). To say I favor the Colts is mainly due to my history with the guns.

Now on the (Uberti) Remington. A few years back I picked my 1858 up from a Forum Member for $100 bucks sight unseen. When it came in, it was practically NIB. Bang for the Buck it is one of my best buys I've ever made. The Remington's sights are more like a modern pistol than the Colt models. With my Colts, they all shoot a little high from point of aim - just something you get used too. The Remington is spot on with point of aim/point of impact. The Remington design seems to be a little better in preventing cap jams, however, my Colts are pretty much jam free and that is not a real concern. I have experienced them with the Colts on occasion, never with the Remington. One of the biggest enhancement factors for me with the Remington is it being stainless steel. As I get older, I seem to like stainless more and more.

I don't plan on retiring or getting shed of any of them, but the Remington will probably see more woods use in the future.

 

[Crawdad1]

What a find. And in California of all places.

 

[raa-7]

I chose the Remington because of the strong frame,(top strap) and I got to shoot one before I bought one . Also I love the way the loading lever looks on these,, reminds me of the "old west" style revolvers. I love the accuracy of my Remington and I'm sure the Colt is a great revolver also.