When a non reloader becomes a freeloader

[qajaq59]

I have buddies that don't want to use my equipment, but are more than happy to shoot my reloads. They stopped buying their own ammo because they somehow think that because it costs me half as much as factory stuff then I should share the wealth.

Those aren't exactly what I'd call "Buddies". And I think it might be worthwhile to add the word NO to your vocabulary.

 

[lgbloader]

You meant lie and brag while working brass, didn't you?

Do you really think I meant anything else??

LGB

 

[berettashotgun]

Situation has happened to me before, guy I reloaded some of his components wanted some more ammo, asking me if I was using HIS powder on my loads. HUH?
At the time I wasn't even using H4350 on any of my stuff - I just told him that I'd be glad to reload for him with his components and dies, shell holder,primer and primer tool, tumbler media, and tumbler.....but I wasn't going to charge him for electricity or time. He would have to go buy and deliver the stuff.
It worked and I am not sure if he was shamed or just thought out the deal he had been getting.
I am always more than happy to help others, but when it comes to money - I'll work weekends for extra, why don't you?
My Dad once told his brother in law ( my step uncle ) to come over and mow our yard while doing some plumbing work at his house - and please use his own mower - point was very well made. Something about free time and equipment costs.

 

[pcg8r]

How about this;
Sure buddy come on by. I'll provide the press etc, you bring all the components you need & an extra pound of powder or a thousand primers for me.

 

[grubbylabs]

All right I will get my own stuff already. didn't know you were so sensitive.

 

[AzBuckfever]

I know what you mean by a freeloader....but I don't think the term freeloader would exist if the people they're freeloading off of, didn't allow it to happen

 

[jpwilly]

I have an open invitation to a rabid anti-gun-liberal at work. He hates guns and people that shoot. I challenged him to come shooting with me, just so he actually had some basis for his rants. He refuses, his mind is closed.

Unfortunately it often takes something really bad happening to an anti-gun-liberal for them to see the light.

I've shown a few non reloaders my set up and they watched intently as I worked away. Often very curious as to all the little steps involved and why. The tools, books, bullets powder just boggled their imaginations. Then I had to hustle my kids back off to bed before they got into something they shouldn't..

 

[buck460XVR]

Think "Liability." If someone blows themselves up with ammo loaded on your machinery, I can think of several legal theories under which you may get to pay his Doctor bills.

CDD

I'd like to see examples of where and how that has happened. That's like saying if you lent your circular saw to your neighbor to build a deck and the deck collapsed, you would be liable for damage......I don't think so. With your reasoning, the manufacturers of the same equipment would be liable everytime some idiot blew up a gun with a squib or overload.....must be a good reason I've yet to see that happen.

Unless it could be proven there was a problem with your equipment that you were well aware of, intentionally did not tell the person and the problem itself led to the production of dangerous ammo, there is no neglect. Only other reason would be if you knew for sure that the idiot did not know what he was doing, that he was gonna blow up his gun and you let him go ahead anyway just for sh%ts and giggles.

 

[lgbloader]

Think "Liability." If someone blows themselves up with ammo loaded on your machinery, I can think of several legal theories under which you may get to pay his Doctor bills.

CDD

i'll bite, show me the legal theories in writing.

LGB

 

[trickyasafox]

I have a freeloader in a different sense-

my dad was always a gun owner, but never a frequent shooter. As I got more into shooting, and eventually reloading- he suddenly realized 'Hank the magic Ammo fairy'-(what I lovingly call my reloading presses) kept the ammo shelves pretty full. All of a sudden, he's more than happy to go to the range and shoot down the supply.

I figure its okay though- I'm 25 and still live at home 3 months a year when home from college and have never paid rent, so i'm happy to put up something the ol' man enjoys.

also my reloading and shooting got my mom motivated to get her ccw and start shooting regularly- so now I'm providing the ammo for the both the rents and I couldn't be happier.

not all freeloading is bad

 

[homeyclaus]

A range buddy shows up with his own components, dies for calibers I don't have, a shell plate, and a case of beer (although I need to help carry that in). The only thing he borrows is some case lube (not counting scales and press).

Can't complain at all. Should I be?

 

[Bass Ackwardz]

A range buddy shows up with his own components, dies for calibers I don't have, a shell plate, and a case of beer (although I need to help carry that in). The only thing he borrows is some case lube (not counting scales and press).

Can't complain at all. Should I be?

LOL...depends on how much beer you both are drinking as you reload...


Bass

 

[ADKWOODSMAN]

Luckily I've taught people to reload and they soon buy their own equipment.

 

[rfwobbly]

While you're feeling so generous....

lykoris -
Could I please "borrow" 1000 primers? And throw in some bullets too, please.

 

[calaverasslim]

my neighbor. Really likes my reloads. Asked me to reload some more. I used cast and he complained. Sed he didn't want cast, wanted me to buy and use jacketed. for him and his sons. when I said buy the bullets, he got angry and started running his mouth.

That ended our friendship and the next year he was back asking for more bullets

 

[HOWARD J]

I will let me kids & grandkids have my reloads ( w/in reason )
No to anyone else--too many shister lawyers in this country,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[jeepmor]

When you teach somoene how to fish and they still want you to give them one, let em figure it out for themselves. I know it's a delicate line with good friends, but if it needs to happen, it needs to happen. Especially if they aren't restocking supplies or committing labor.

I've had instances regarding building and fixing rigs that lent itself to good comparison, suppose we all h ave. I don't think I lost friendship over it, but it definitely impacted it negatively in their eyes when my tool and expertise gravy train got cut off.

BTW - take a deep breath Oyeboten, we understand. Some friends think it's theirs and keep it until you ask for it back. Then they waffle and waffle before they get it back. And they never used it in the first place! Okay, time for my deep breath.

jeepmor

 

[Big Wes]

Had a preacher / user up the street from me who asked about reloading. I showed him the basics on my Dillon, his components. He'd drop off brass and ask if I would clean it up for him. I did this 2 times then I found out/realized he had no intentions on buying a press. He had another guy from church who would load for him and all he did was shoot the stuff. Then it dawned on me he asked me to clean his brass and he'd go to the other guy to load the stuff up, because the guy didn't want to take the time on waiting for the brass to be cleaned, and then start loading after. Well, I held school on him, He brought over some brass for me to clean and I kept it all and handed him a can of semi clean brass that was all tarnished from sitting around in my shed a couple days later.
Guess what that ended that.

Use me once - his fault, Use me twice - my fault! That ain't likely going to happen, sometimes it just doesn't pay to be a nice guy.

 

[Quoheleth]

I have a freeloader in a different sense-

my dad was always a gun owner, but never a frequent shooter. As I got more into shooting, and eventually reloading- he suddenly realized 'Hank the magic Ammo fairy'-(what I lovingly call my reloading presses) kept the ammo shelves pretty full. All of a sudden, he's more than happy to go to the range and shoot down the supply.

I figure its okay though- I'm 25 and still live at home 3 months a year when home from college and have never paid rent, so i'm happy to put up something the ol' man enjoys.

also my reloading and shooting got my mom motivated to get her ccw and start shooting regularly- so now I'm providing the ammo for the both the rents and I couldn't be happier.

not all freeloading is bad

By definition, this is not freeloading. This is exchange of services for goods - rent for ammo. Last time I checked, that's called capitolism. I would use the phrase, "fair trade," but that has another connotation.
Q