When chimpanzees attack.

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"He saw what was happening and had one kind of weapon with him and then got another he felt would be more substantial and shot them," Martarano said. "He pretty much saved a life."
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So, he was carrying a handgun and ran for his rifle?

Was there any reason the spokesbeing couldn't say what kind of "weapons" were being talked about here? I mean, the chimps had been shot, and that fact was going to be all over the news, so I'm really wondering why the spokesbeing was pussyfooting around the very obvious fact that the man who shot the chimps used guns.

pax
 
I believe Chimpanzees are also cannibals in the wild. I know some monkeys are. I remember seeing something on National Geographic that showed them tearing another chimp apart and eating it. I'm pretty sure it was chimps.
 
Good point

Car knocker,
Never thought of that...I will do some research on Hawaii's stats and I'll get back to you on that.

Pax,
Good point. Newsies are so PC that they only know how to say assault weapons when they speak of guns. Kind of has a military insinuation when they say AW.

All you all,
You folks have certainly spurred my interest in watching that National Geographic chapter about chimpanzees. Seems like what they did to the man is what they do in the wild to their "enemy" chimpanzees.
Pretty brutal, but that's that underlying instinct when they feel threatened. :eek:
 
For all those interested the video I saw is playing on the national geographic channel and will air again march 11 @ 5pm and April 15 @ 9:00pm per their website. It is called The Dark Side of Chimps.
 
Many years ago, in another lifetime, I handled the exam for Animal Keeper for the local municipal zoo. In course of doing the job analysis, I asked the director what their most dangerous animal was. He told me it was the chimpanzees, hands down. Not only are the males dangerous when they escape, but people actually tend to go towards them. Cute lil' animals!
 
Some chimps have even discovered chemical warfare and aerial bombardment.

I found that out years ago while following a group of wild chimps through the forest in Uganda. There were five of us; the Ugandan guide, two Norwegians, a Dutchman and an American. At one point we heard something come crashing down through the branches from maybe a hundred feet up in the trees. Words cannot describe the smell as that "something" hit the ground. Let's just say I had no idea an animal weighing less than a hundred kg could be that full of crap...

The chimp's aim was pretty good. And it must have been a smart chimp at that. It aimed for the American and missed by less than a foot. :D
 
It is very difficult to feel bad for this man.

St. James and LaDonna Davis were at the Animal Haven Ranch in Caliente to celebrate the birthday of Moe, a 39-year-old chimpanzee who was taken from their suburban Los Angeles home in 1999 after biting off part of a woman's finger.
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How's that saying go? Fool me once, shame on you.... :banghead:

(Yes, I fully realize that it wasn't the same chimp - it doesn't matter. He is a Darwin Award candidate.)
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What caliber to use on a chimp?

I would probably feel pretty comfortable w/ a .44 Mag, but how often do you CCW a .44? Wonder if a .45 ACP or .357 SIG would be enough? They do a number on just about everything else.
 
.357 Mag or .45ACP should be more than enough. I'd probably prefer the .45ACP with 230gr Hydra Shoks in a 5" GM and double taps. :D

BuffaloBill - I have to agree, the thing already bit off a finger and these are known to be dangerous. Basically, they're alot like humans, but with superhuman strength, intelligence, and really bad tempers with little self control. Chimps view as competition and a natural threat.

Personally, I would not want to be in the same room with one that is not behind steel bars and even then, I'd want a sidearm on my person. :uhoh:
 
I think I might know this guy- I stopped by a chimp owners' house a few years a go, and my father commented that he was one of the only chimp owners in Kern County.
 
Was there any reason the spokesbeing couldn't say what kind of "weapons" were being talked about here?
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One of the articles I read made mention that he used a "45 caliber handgun" to shoot them. I would imagine that he had some sort of blunt instrument or one of those pole-on-a-stick thingies which proved quite inadequate.
 
Ok this whole thing has me intersted, so I decided to look into chimp attacks and found some interesting information regarding the animal that Mr. Davis was visiting.

Here is a rather friendly article detailing the legal battle that resulted from a 1998 attack by the same chimp (Moe)

http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSHeyMartha9910/14_monkey2.html

Here is a slightly different account of the attack. Taken from this source: http://www.circuses.com/attacks-prim99.asp

A "pet" chimpanzee escaped from his cage and went berserk, biting four people and denting a police car with his fists during a three-hour rampage. One officer required three surgeries on his hand at a cost of $250,000.
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The chimp then went on to bite off the tip of a "community services" worker who went to their home. The first articel says she stuck her finger in the cage (and was responsible for her own injury). The other source doesnt mention this but, it is still part of a pattern.

A "pet" chimpanzee bit off the fingertip of a woman visiting the owner’s home. This is the same chimpanzee who attacked four people on August 19, 1998.
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I hate to say it but this is starting to look like Karma. This guy has a pet chimp that is known to have attacked at least 5 people, severely disfiguring at least two of them (one of them a police officer) and he was trying to get the animal released because it he thinks of it part of his family. He is then attacked by two DIFFERENT animals. I guess the universe just works itself out sometimes.
 
The guy may have had something coming his way, but nobody deserves that much done to them. No more eyes, genitals, or foot, and whatever else, man that sucks. The chimp should have been executed after the first attack.
 
The guy may have had something coming his way, but nobody deserves that much done to them. No more eyes, genitals, or foot, and whatever else, man that sucks. The chimp should have been executed after the first attack.
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All ten fingers missing and according to a physician at the hospital they "chewed off most of his face" too. I'm certainly not implying that he "deserved" it. But, on the other hand none of the people who were malled by HIS chimp deserved it either, and he didnt seem to care very much about them. Noone deserves such a thing. But, still the victim here was part of the problem. If people would stop getting these animals and deciding to keep them as pets when they are small and cute and ignoring the fact that they are wild animals (and tempermental ones at that, who's social structure is defined by exactly this sort of violence) none of these attacks would ever have happened.
 
But, on the other hand none of the people who were malled by HIS chimp deserved it either, and he didnt seem to care very much about them. Noone deserves such a thing. But, still the victim here was part of the problem. If people would stop getting these animals and deciding to keep them as pets when they are small and cute and ignoring the fact that they are wild animals (and tempermental ones at that, who's social structure is defined by exactly this sort of violence) none of these attacks would ever have happened.
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I agree with you completely. I just think that really sucks!
 
Antjo, Don't you mean this really bites. Seriously though, I understand where you're coming from. Too many people have been severely injured and almost dead from this entire fiasco.

The owner has certainly paid a costly lesson and I believe this incident has finally made him realize the full seriousness of his ongoing, poor judgement.

We all make mistakes, but I believe that this fellow has, sadly enough, made too many mistakes on this matter.
 
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When Jane Goodall was doing her chimp research she had at one time a 2 year old child. Her child was kept in a cage least the chimps eat it !!!
 
When I was in school, a 40 lb lab monkey was led around on a leash in front of folks. The young lady then walked it to its cage in another room. When alone, it jumped on her head, beat and bit the living crappola out of her.

They told us that a monkey was a strong as us and a chimp was about 4 times stronger.

Today on the news, a local shelter got a shipment of abused tigers and lions.
Once one got out, ate a ostrich and then headed into the community. Get the Defender out.

My mother-in-law lived in Niagara Falls and some jerk down the street had a lion. You could here it at night.

Simply pass a Federal law - no wild animals for private citizens. There is no right to keep and bear - lions and tigers and bears.
 
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